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#1862 - Mike Baker

The Joe Rogan Experience

August 24, 2022

Mike Baker is a former CIA covert operations officer and current CEO of Portman Square Group, a global intelligence firm.

Speakers Joe Rogan, Mike Baker

TopicsComedy

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Mike Baker (0:17)

Oh, well, I'd say we're fucked.

Yeah, I mean, it depends on where you want to start. There's so many interesting things, right? I will say, right off the bat, I didn't have monkeypox on my bingo card.

Joe Rogan (0:33)

It doesn't seem to be that big of an issue.

Even when people get it, they don't die. They just get blisters, and then it heals up, and then they're good.

Mike Baker (0:40)

Yeah, and then they're fine.

Joe Rogan (0:41)

It's not good. But it's not.

Mike Baker (0:43)

It's not good.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

And it also can be avoided if you don't have a lot of unprotected gay sex.

Mike Baker (0:48)

Yeah, unfortunately, I said the other, what, a month ago, I made the mistake of saying, yeah, just don't have a lot of unprotected, unprotected, random sex at a rave or don't fuck monkeys. And apparently people took offense at that.

Joe Rogan (1:03)

I don't think anybody's fucking monkeys.

So they probably are. There's probably like one guy.

Mike Baker (1:07)

There was one guy.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

I don't think that's what's causing it.

Mike Baker (1:10)

Patient zero.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

That's just the name of it, right?

Mike Baker (1:13)

Yeah, it is. But to tell you what kind of world we live in, now what they want to do is change the name because they think the name is what?

Joe Rogan (1:21)

It's offensive to gay people in some strange way. They want to call it like a number, like ATX124, some nonsense.

Just it's already monkeypox.

Mike Baker (1:32)

It's monkeypox. Everybody's going to know it's monkeypox. Remember when COVID was the Wuhan Flu? Yeah. Yeah, for a while.

Joe Rogan (1:38)

No, that's not good either.

Mike Baker (1:38)

It wasn't good. No, you couldn't do that.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

Why is it okay to have chickenpox when you can't have monkeypox?

Mike Baker (1:45)

Yeah. What's up with that? Nobody cares about the chickens anymore.

It is interesting that one of the primary concerns right now, aside obviously from dealing with the actual issue, is that we got to change the name. And I honestly, God couldn't figure out why that would be offensive to anybody but monkeys. I don't think...

Joe Rogan (2:06)

It doesn't make any sense. I think it's just the name has already become synonymous with people having unprotected gay sex. And so they just want to reduce it to a disease.

Mike Baker (2:17)

That's fair enough.

Joe Rogan (2:18)

I mean, it's just... It is what it is. It's like out of all the things that we can be worried about, it's not at the top of the list, folks.

You can avoid it and if you get it, you're gonna be okay. You're not gonna die. No, I don't believe anyone has died from it, which is crazy that it gets the kind of press it gets.

Mike Baker (2:33)

Yeah, it's... I guess the number of cases caught people by surprise, right? I don't know where they are now. The last piece of news I read about it was 10,000 cases, I think, in the US.

Joe Rogan (2:43)

That's because gay dudes put in work.

They're prolific. Yeah.

Mike Baker (2:49)

If you don't have to convince some woman to have sex with you, and you're just talking about a room full of dudes, they don't want it to happen.

Joe Rogan (2:55)

It's amazing how much gets done.

Mike Baker (2:56)

It's like if I had a pair of tits, I'd never leave the house, so...

I don't think I... Okay, I should take that back.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

Yeah, take that back. Sorry about that. Don't say that.

I think you'd still leave the house. I think you'd get accustomed to them after a while.

Mike Baker (3:09)

Yeah, you probably would. You probably would.

But, yeah, I didn't see Monkeypox and we got... But you're right. We got other things to deal with. We got China's lab and missiles over Taiwan.

Joe Rogan (3:20)

Yeah, that was wild. So that's one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about. Why the fuck would Nancy Pelosi go to Taiwan and then go to the DMZ?

Are they trying to kill her?

Mike Baker (3:34)

Well... Yeah, I think what caught a lot of people by surprise was just how public the trip became.

Joe Rogan (3:41)

Well, it was obviously a press stunt.

Mike Baker (3:43)

Well, yes, although we don't know who leaked it. We're not sure. I mean, from her office and from other places, we don't know who really started talking about this because there have been a number of delegations, obviously, going back and forth. We just had another one in Taiwan, got almost no press.

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