#1819 - Cameron Hanes

Joe Rogan (0:12)

And we're Cameron Haynes, author.

How does it feel to be an author? You've actually been an author for a long time, though.

Cameron Hanes (0:19)

Yeah, but it's...

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Backcountry Bow Hunting, when did you write that?

Cameron Hanes (0:22)

Not really, those didn't really count. Those are like bow hunting books, so it's like...

I mean, I guess it counts, but it's different than... This is an actual book book.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

This is a real book.

Cameron Hanes (0:32)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

Endure, it's from a real publisher.

Cameron Hanes (0:34)

Yeah, exactly.

The other ones weren't really like that. I've had two other books. Backcountry Bow... Trophy... Or wait. Bow Hunting Trophy Black Tail was in 1999, and Backcountry Bow Hunting was in 2006

Joe Rogan (0:47)

And then this one is tomorrow, which is today. If you're listening to this, it's coming out today. It's Endure, and it's got that face of you from when you were moose hunting.

You have that manliest photo with the cheek cut and the blood trickling down your face. When you had that, when the blood was trickling down your face, were you like, ooh, get some pictures?

Cameron Hanes (1:08)

No.

Joe Rogan (1:09)

This is pretty fucking manly.

Cameron Hanes (1:10)

So Roy wasn't up there. That was Roy and I's last hunt, but he wasn't up there yet. And I was going through these alders, snow covered, pretty foggy. And it was weird when you're fighting through alders that are slapping you in the face and things like that. And I slipped and there's one that was broke and it was kind of sharp. And I slipped and it went right on my cheek. And I was thinking to myself at that time, I'm like, could have taken out an eye. That would have been great. But it just did that.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

Come on, man. That's probably one of the most badass pictures a person's ever taken.

Cameron Hanes (1:43)

So I got up. Thank you, Selfie. And I got up there. And then I got to the top and was kind of looking around. And you see it's kind of foggy back there. And then I didn't know my... I actually had blood. And then, yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:56)

Did you, like, look at it in a selfie to find the blood?

Cameron Hanes (1:59)

Yeah, I had my phone and I looked. I was like, oh, okay, cool.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

A sample shot of that. Impress all the fellas back home.

Cameron Hanes (2:05)

Yeah, well, it turned in... It's meaningful because it was an amazing hunt. It was a hard hunt. And it was...

Roy and I had...

You know, it was a hunt we always... It's what we love to do. Hard, cold, miserable, grizzly bears, long pack, killed a good bull. Just loved it.

Joe Rogan (2:25)

And this is the...

For people who don't know, Roy was your good friend who got you into bow hunting, who died shortly afterwards. He fell while sheep hunting and fell to his death, which is a lot more common than I thought it was. I was talking to someone about people falling while sheep hunting, and you're saying, like, it happens every year.

Cameron Hanes (2:47)

Yeah, it's...

What I've noticed, because there's a lot of guys I look up to because of their mountain abilities or hunting or just... They're just, I don't know, just people I look up to. If you spend a lot of time in the mountains, there's risk, and, you know, eventually, it only takes one.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

And those kind of mountains, like the sheep hunting mountains, are very steep. It's rugged terrain, and it's snowy and cliff...

Cameron Hanes (3:14)

Sometimes, sometimes. Where Roy fell, it was dry at that time, and it was just one... Because there's a dry side of the mountain, and then on the north side or the other side, it's cooler, so there's more snow and the ice, as you mentioned, like where I killed my sheep on that same hunt in 2008 That was on the cold side. Where he fell on the warm side, it was dry, but it's so steep, and it just takes one mistake.

And, you know, he'd been up there for years.

Joe Rogan (3:46)

Remy Warren was on the podcast a couple weeks ago, and he was telling me a story about sheep hunting.

He was guiding, actually, and he was guiding this woman, and she killed a sheep, but it fell on this, like, ledge on a cliff. And so he figured, you know, I'll just climb over there and knock it loose. And then he climbed over there and knocked it loose, and then basically had a panic attack, and he realized, like, how steep it was and how very dangerous it was. And then when he got back, the woman was screaming and cussing and hitting him. You know, don't you ever fucking do that again.