#1805 - Mike Tyson

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Time isn't giving fuck about any of this. No, no, no.

Mike Tyson (0:18)

Don't wait for nobody.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

What was it like fighting again after all those years?

Mike Tyson (0:26)

Hey, listen, I did this Toad, this DMT stuff, and I lost that weight, and I said, I don't know what happened. I just don't know what happened. I said, I'm gonna do this.

Joe Rogan (0:37)

Well, it's funny because you talked to me on the podcast before. The first time you came on and you said, I can't even work out.

Because if I work out, my ego will get excited.

Mike Tyson (0:47)

But I did this Toad, and the Toad, I said, you gotta do it. They said, you have to do it. The Toad told you.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

The DMT told you the time to fight.

Mike Tyson (0:55)

You have to do it, because I lost the weight. And it started off with me at first fighting Bob Sapp at first.

Joe Rogan (1:05)

That's right. The K-1 event. I was there for that. I was there live.

Mike Tyson (1:08)

No, but I mean, I was going to fight.

SPEAKER_3 (1:09)

I was going to be the first fighter there.

Joe Rogan (1:11)

You got in the ring with them. You said, Mark is the Queensberry rules.

Mike Tyson (1:13)

Yes, but listen, the fight I fought with Roy Jones was supposed to be with Bob Sapp.

Joe Rogan (1:18)

Oh, really? Oh, no kidding.

Mike Tyson (1:22)

Hell, yeah. I wouldn't have to chase this guy all around.

So next thing you know, Roy Jones got involved, and other fighters, Holyfield got involved, and then it turned into a fiasco, and then the young guy, Jake Paul. Jake Paul, he got involved then, and that's how the birth of Jake Paul began.

Joe Rogan (1:46)

When you get challenged by someone who's a guy like a Jake Paul, does that piss you off? Is it part of it that's just like...

Mike Tyson (1:56)

No, it doesn't. I think it's awesome.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

You think it's awesome?

That's awesome. That's awesome that you handle it that way. Because in a way, it's kind of insulting. It's brave, it's bold of him, but it's also, it's like, Jesus Christ, there's levels to this world.

Mike Tyson (2:20)

Let me, let me know what I found out.

This gentleman, he was a mayor in this town in the Midwest, right? And I talked to him before, and he was one of those stern guys. He always got the bills paid, always got your lights on, always got everything right and perfect, but he didn't have a good personality. And he almost lost to a guy that didn't do anything. He didn't make, he shitted on people's tags, he messed it, but he hung out with the people. He smoked cigarettes with them, he drank with them, he ate with them, he hang out on the porch with them. And that's when you learn you can't take yourself too serious.

I mean, the world will turn on you if you take yourself too serious. Who the hell am I to take myself too serious? Made all this money, got this reputation, and now I'm looking at people screw-facing them now. I have a great life. How am I gonna be mad at somebody, really? If you think about it, when my ego is not involved, how can I really be mad at somebody?

Joe Rogan (3:11)

That's beautiful. That's a beautiful attitude. And you're so right, because there's so many people that are so concentrating on, they're concentrating so much on succeeding and doing great things.

Mike Tyson (3:20)

That was me. I just wanted to win so bad.

I wanted to be somebody so bad, it wasn't even funny.

Joe Rogan (3:25)

Yeah, and you forget what life is about. Life is about, thank you, life is enjoying moments.

Mike Tyson (3:31)

Life is a balance and life is, your legacy is not what you accomplish, it's what your children say about you at the end of the day.

They know who you are. They know what you're hiding that you don't know what else to see.

Joe Rogan (3:43)

I'm sure you are a fan of Miyamoto Musashi, I'm sure.

Mike Tyson (3:47)

Tell me about the Japanese warrior.

Joe Rogan (3:48)

Book of Five Rings.

Mike Tyson (3:49)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (3:50)

He was all about balance. That was his whole thing. A samurai has to be an artist. You have to be able to do calligraphy. You have to be able to paint. You have to be able to write poetry. Yes. He felt like if you had any imbalance, if you were too aggressive or too peaceful, any imbalance was dangerous. He's like, you had to be perfectly centered. So you had to be a person who understood all things.