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#1767 - James Lindsay

The Joe Rogan Experience

January 20, 2022

James Lindsay is an author, mathematician, podcaster, and founder of New Discourses: an online resource for educating the public on the dangers of the "Critical Social Justice" movement.

Speakers Joe Rogan, James Lindsay, Jamie

TopicsComedy

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Good to see you, a heterodox individual, you.

James Lindsay (0:16)

I am very heterodox.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

I like to use that word, because I never use that word.

James Lindsay (0:20)

Well, you used it properly.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

I just did.

James Lindsay (0:22)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

I think this is the first time I've ever used it on the podcast.

James Lindsay (0:24)

Yeah, definitely not orthodox.

Joe Rogan (0:28)

So tell me what you were just telling me about a conference. We were having a conversation where I was saying, I wonder how many undercover Feds have either gotten on the podcast or tried to get on the podcast.

James Lindsay (0:37)

Yeah, it's like, I've had a couple places. One, I had this guy come up to me, and we were just in the crowd, right? It wasn't like I just got off stage or anything like that.

And he comes up to me and he's like, if we had to narrow it down to the top 10, 12 individuals pulling all this crazy stuff that's going on in the world, could you name who they are? Like, who are they?

And the question is, you know, what are we going to do about them? You know, are we going to have to take them out? You know, are we going to have to go off? When do we get to go off? It was like the statement. When do we get to go off on them? Like, that violence is-

Joe Rogan (1:08)

Are we going to have to take them out?

James Lindsay (1:09)

Going to have to take them out. Like, I'm looking at this guy thinking, you're not taking anybody out, but-

Joe Rogan (1:14)

But what are you doing? Like, what is this? Yeah.

James Lindsay (1:16)

Yeah. Like, why are you asking me this question? I had another guy, I did a talk, and this was totally awesome event. Like, there's a mechanical bull in the venue. Like, it was nuts, and I'm doing this, like, professional talk and everything. It was nuts, and this guy's drunk afterwards. I don't know, probably just drunk, maybe he's not. And he's like, I wanted to ask you one question, man. And I was like, what is it after I talked? And he was like, when do we get to start shooting them? And I was like, holy shit, dude, no, you know, we don't.

Like, that's the trap, if anything, like, you don't start-

Joe Rogan (1:44)

Do you think that guy was just crazy, or do you think that guy was a fed? And how do you know the difference?

James Lindsay (1:49)

That's the question, I don't know. I actually suspect that guy was just drunk, and shooting off at the mouth, and frustrated, but I don't know. And then the weirdo guy that was like, if we could narrow it down to who are the, because that guy wouldn't leave me alone. The guy I told you about first, like, he wouldn't leave me alone.

It's like, he just kept asking questions and like trying to talk to me, and I was like, huh.

Joe Rogan (2:08)

That EPS guy that everyone has decided was an agent provocateur that was at the January 6th thing, they still haven't found that guy. Yeah. Or excuse me, they still haven't charged that guy.

James Lindsay (2:18)

Haven't charged that guy yet. Very suspicious circumstances around that.

Joe Rogan (2:21)

The weirdest, right?

James Lindsay (2:22)

Right, like let's just, you know, we'll have him on the list of people we're interested in, and then people are gonna say, you know, we're all screaming, he's a fed, he's a fed, and then there's all this video of him doing weird stuff, and people saying, fed, fed, fed.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

Yeah.

James Lindsay (2:34)

And then all of a sudden they're like, off the list. He's not on the wanted list anymore.

Joe Rogan (2:39)

Yeah, not wanted, not being charged, it's so odd.

James Lindsay (2:42)

While other people are rotting in jail.

Joe Rogan (2:44)

Yeah.

James Lindsay (2:45)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Well, and then when Ted Cruz grills the FBI lady, and she's like, I can't answer that, I can't answer that.

James Lindsay (2:53)

The answer to those questions is very simple.

No, no, no. And she's like, I can't answer that question.

Joe Rogan (3:00)

Did the FBI or any agents incite violence?

I can't answer that. What?

James Lindsay (3:06)

I mean, I understand the Fifth Amendment. Nobody can be compelled to incriminate themselves, but man.

Joe Rogan (3:13)

Does the Fifth Amendment even apply when you're a representative of an organization? Because it's a different scenario.

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