#1724 - Jewel

Joe Rogan (0:13)

You're a real professional. You're a one-year, one-ear-open, one-ear-on type of person.

Jewel (0:18)

That's funny, I did that accidentally.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

You did you?

Jewel (0:22)

I'm sure it's habit.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

Yeah, I bet it is. Like a lot of radio professionals will do that.

Jewel (0:26)

Really?

Joe Rogan (0:27)

They almost want like a little bit of ambient.

Jewel (0:28)

Yeah, I like to hear the sound of the room still.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

The real noise. Who does that? Jim Norton does that. Yeah.

It's odd. I get it.

Jewel (0:37)

I do it in this vocal booth.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

Oh, that makes sense.

Jewel (0:39)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Right. You want to hear the actual sound, not like the digitally enhanced and coming through speakers. And you want to hear the voice.

Jewel (0:50)

Everybody hears sound differently in pitch particularly. I hear pitch as it sounds like waves to me. Waves. So like if I'm tuning my guitar, I hear one, one, one, one, one, or I'll hear one, one. It's like a little vibrato sort of.

So when you push sound through air, it's pushing air and it'll make those little waves. But if you have just this on, it takes all the air out of it.

And so I don't hear pitches well when I'm singing. And so I'll always have one earphone off so I can hear those little waves. Because if I can match my wave to the wave I'm hearing, I know I'm in tune.

Joe Rogan (1:24)

That makes the most sense for singers, right? As opposed to any other kind of musician, because you're modulating air. That's part of what you're doing.

Jewel (1:32)

Yeah. It's all breath control. Singing is just about... It's because it's basically like a garden hose. So all you have is like constriction, dilation, and then tone comes through where you're pushing your air, like where you're going to put that. If you're going to put it on your face mask, wide on your cheekbones, or narrow it to here.

And that's how you sing.

Joe Rogan (1:52)

I would imagine the way you hear things is different too.

Like, I don't, I'm not a, I love wine, but I can't tell you what it is. You know, but a Somalian can drink wine and sift it around, and they have this educated palate. I would imagine like sound to you is like, you have like a different depth of understanding of sound, particularly like vocal sound, right? Do you feel that?

Jewel (2:21)

Yeah, definitely. Like you definitely cultivate your ear. But what I love about music is uneducated people can tell whether you're being sincere or authentic or not. Like it's kind of fascinating, but something does get communicated in a voice that tells you a lot about their heart and how they're feeling.

And so much information gets communicated beyond pure tone that I've always found that so interesting about music.

Joe Rogan (2:44)

Yeah, in regular conversation, that's true as well, right? It's with everything really. And some folks don't see that, and they're the ones who send money to televangelists.

Jewel (2:53)

Yeah. Exactly.

Joe Rogan (2:57)

Or cult members, they join a cult.

Jewel (2:59)

Or those guys are probably great at tricking a lie detector test too. They're just good at presenting a really specific thing that a lot of people can't see through.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

There's a place that I was gonna buy out here for a comedy club. And I was in the middle of this process, and it wound up falling apart because there was some environmental issue. But the place, it turned out, was owned at one point in time by a cult.

And there's a documentary about the cult, and it's called Holy Hell, and it's on Amazon Prime. And I watched it, but I didn't watch it until I was in contract with the building. I was like, holy shit.

Jewel (3:35)

Holy hell.

Joe Rogan (3:36)

Yeah, holy hell. It was so sad.

It was so sad. There's this crazy guy who built this theater that I was gonna buy just so he can dance in front of his followers. And these poor people, they started with him in West Hollywood, and then they made it out here to Austin. And they built this structure specifically so that he could perform in front of his followers.

And this was a place I was gonna buy and convert to a comedy club. And I hadn't watched the doc. I should have watched the documentary first.

Jewel (4:04)

Did you buy it?

Joe Rogan (4:05)

No, it went up falling apart, because there was an issue that I don't think I'm allowed to talk about. I think I have an NDA, but it wasn't good. There was an issue that needed to be resolved. It's resolvable, but it wasn't resolved.