#1711 - Patrick Bet-David

Patrick Bet-David (0:13)

How you doing?

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Very good, very nice to meet you. I enjoy your program. I watch it all the time.

Patrick Bet-David (0:17)

Thank you.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

I watch it all the time on YouTube.

Patrick Bet-David (0:18)

Really?

Joe Rogan (0:19)

Yeah, yeah, very good. Very good at interviewing people.

I really enjoy your questions, the way you handle your interviews.

So I looked at a lot of your stuff, and I was like, I want to talk to this guy.

Patrick Bet-David (0:29)

Very cool. I've been following you for a while, and I listen to everything you talk about pretty much. So I was telling you earlier how necessary you are. You're pissing a lot of the right people off today, which is good.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

I'm not trying. I'm not trying to piss anybody off. Just being me.

Patrick Bet-David (0:42)

We're glad you are. I know you're just being yourself, but we're glad you are.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

Well, thank you very much. I'm glad you are out there too.

The world needs strong voices, you know, people who have character and discipline and people who have carved their way through this life. It's important. It's an important thing for young people in particular to see coming up that you can be a person of character and discipline and you can get far in this business with drive and you can get far in life with drive in all businesses, really.

Patrick Bet-David (1:09)

Do you think people can miss that? Like, do you think people can, maybe that was valued 50 years ago but not today because they're confused today? Do you think that can happen?

Joe Rogan (1:17)

I think people are still the same.

There's still the same characteristics that make up a human being still exist, but there's pathways for excuses that exist today that didn't exist before. There's pathways for victimhood. There's like, you can have, there's credit in victimhood, social credit in, well, I didn't get a break or I didn't get this or these rich people have that or these successful people have all the breaks. And there's a lot of clout in actually being a person who has been either denied or the pathways are unavailable to them so they get to bitch about it and complain about it. There's a sense of, instead of dealing with the hand that you've gotten and trying to move forward in a positive way and trying to do your best with what you got, because everybody has a different starting point in life. Life is not fair in terms of like-

Patrick Bet-David (2:13)

No question.

Joe Rogan (2:14)

No question.

But some people look at what they got and they go, okay, this is what we got, let's figure out how we move forward. And other people go, well, other people have this and I don't, and other people have that and fuck them. We need to tax them and we need to do this.

There shouldn't be any billionaires. There shouldn't be any rich people. You can live off of $50,000 a year and then all that money would feed everyone and house everyone in the world. But they don't understand motivation. They don't understand. Like, there's this idea of equal outcome, like everyone should have an equal outcome. But there's not an idea of equal effort. Equal effort is not a real thing.

Patrick Bet-David (2:53)

Hasn't that been proven that doesn't work though? That's been proven, experienced multiple places and we know it doesn't work.

Joe Rogan (3:00)

But it's still something that's being taught in universities. It's Marxism and that kind of leftist thinking is very common in universities.

And the idea is that it hasn't been done right. And what you could say that would argue for that is like, well, democracy, you know, I mean, obviously the Greeks had democracy and the Romans had democracy, but it eventually fell and turned into a dictatorship, right?

But America was the first legitimate democracy that actually succeeded and still exists currently, right? We were the first that like sort of got it right. Maybe this could be the first socialist government that works. Let by that noble leader. Yes, yes, AOC or whoever it is.

Patrick Bet-David (3:49)

She would be wonderful. By the way, here's a question for you. I'm curious to know what you say to this.

What are the chances that she'll be president one day?

Joe Rogan (3:55)

Very good, very high.

Patrick Bet-David (3:56)

I agree.

Joe Rogan (3:57)

Very high.

Patrick Bet-David (3:57)

What's high, 20%?

Joe Rogan (3:58)

Yes, at least 20%. She's very charismatic, very intelligent. People love her.