#1709 - Amanda Knox

Amanda Knox (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:12)

Yeah, so we started off this conversation talking about irelians.

Amanda Knox (0:15)

Because they're everywhere.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

They're everywhere. This is Travis Walton. This is a guy who's got one of the more interesting cases.

He was abducted, allegedly, in Arizona, when he was working as a logger. And there was a bunch of witnesses that saw the craft, and he disappeared for several days, and then came back and has this crazy story.

Amanda Knox (0:36)

Okay, any anal probing?

Joe Rogan (0:38)

I don't think he had any anal probing. They supposedly worked on him because he tried to approach the craft, allegedly, in his story.

Amanda Knox (0:48)

Okay, so this is like an ET scenario. The craft is on the ground.

Joe Rogan (0:51)

The craft was either on the ground or hovering above the ground, I forget which, and he and these other loggers saw it, and he decided to run towards it, and he ran towards it and got hit with some kind of energy. The guys freaked out, the guys I do with freaked out took off, drove away, and as they were driving away, they drove like, I forget how far, and then they're like, fuck, we gotta go back. We gotta go, but this is crazy. What happened? They go back, and he's gone.

They can't find him. There's some evidence that the ship was there, that there was some sort of a disturbance on the ground, but Travis is gone, disappeared for a few days, and then came back with this fantastic story.

Amanda Knox (1:32)

And Define worked on him.

Joe Rogan (1:34)

Yeah, exactly.

Maybe, I guess, whatever energy was coming off the craft damaged him physically, so they did some sort of biological repair on him. Like radiation? Whatever it was, whether it's radiation or some sort of propulsion system that they had that had some sort of energy that comes off of it, electricity, magnetics, whatever. I don't know what it was.

I don't know if it's real. It's hard when people just tell you stories. He didn't seem like a liar. He seemed like a very credible man that had an extraordinary experience many decades ago, but maybe he's full of shit. Therein lies the Amanda Knox case.

Amanda Knox (2:13)

Right?

Joe Rogan (2:13)

Like no one knows the truth.

When you're dealing with any story where people are trying to piece together a story, it's very complex. And people like to pretend that they can read people.

Amanda Knox (2:29)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (2:29)

That's a problem. It's a real problem.

Amanda Knox (2:31)

Yes. Yeah, I think that when people treat their ability to read other people like empirical evidence, that is a very troubling trend, yes.

Joe Rogan (2:43)

I used to think I was pretty good at spotting bullshitters until I met a guy who wanted to become a murderer and was completely full of shit, like absolutely 100% full of shit. He was a fake black belt.

Amanda Knox (2:57)

Wait, so he came and sat across from you and was like...

Joe Rogan (3:00)

No, no, it wasn't that simple. I was introduced to him through friends. That's why I accepted him.

And he was a guy who pretended to be a black belt in Jiu Jitsu, had made his way all the way into these very close circles of elite fighters, and he was even doing reporting work. He was working as a journalist for one of the online mixed martial arts websites. And so I kind of accepted that this guy was legit. Then he did some training with a friend of mine who is legit, and my friend was puzzled. He's like, dude, I don't know what is going on, but he's fucking terrible. He's like, he's not a black belt. I go, really? You go, sure, he wasn't like going light? He's like, no. No, he didn't know what the fuck he was doing.

He was like a white belt. He's not even like a purple belt.

Amanda Knox (3:47)

He was just faking it till he makes it.

Joe Rogan (3:49)

Completely faking it, but faking it to the point where he got on the mats with someone who was legit. And then, you know, Jiu Jitsu is like, it's like a language in that if someone pretends they speak English, oh yeah, I speak fluent English, and then they come to talk to you, be like, what in the fuck is happening? And you're like, hey man, that guy can't talk English.

And you'd be like, wow, he told me he could. Interesting, it's like that. So if someone like yourself who speaks fluent English was talking to someone who could barely get by, it would be very obvious. That's how it is with Jiu Jitsu. So my friend comes to me and he goes, something's wrong, man. This guy is completely fucked up. He's not good at all. And so we're like, hmm. And this is, by the way, a period of time in my life where I smoked more pot than I've ever had. So every day I was high.