#1705 - Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Joe Rogan (0:14)

Good to see you guys.

Bret Weinstein (0:15)

Hey Joe, great to see you.

Heather Heying (0:16)

Really good to see you.

Bret Weinstein (0:18)

Yeah, welcome back to the land of the healthy.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

Yeah, it was a quick trip.

Bret Weinstein (0:23)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:24)

Wasn't that bad.

Bret Weinstein (0:25)

That's amazing.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

Yeah.

Heather Heying (0:27)

Here you are, Hale, Hardy, wonderful.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

Yeah, that can happen, folks. There you go.

That's one of the things that can happen too.

Bret Weinstein (0:35)

Yeah, it's kind of an important lesson because obviously, you're one case and that could mean anything, but obviously you got treated aggressively early, which doctors who have been successful with COVID tell us is the way to deal with it. And in your case, it does seem consistent with what happened.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

There's obviously a lot of factors in terms of treating it early, medication, having good doctors, having access to get health care, all that stuff is very important, obviously.

But just to know that there are medic... Because I wasn't vaccinated, so it's good for people to know that there are health care options. There are things that you can do that will get you healthy very quickly. And that seems to be left out of the conversation. Completely.

Bret Weinstein (1:25)

Yeah, I worry about the fact that we now know a lot about how to treat this, how to manage the disease itself. And because this has become so politicized, lots of people who get COVID, vaccinated or not, I mean, there are plenty of breakthrough cases, people who get this disease need a doctor who will go after it aggressively, early, prescribe the right medications.

And when they do, what typically happens for people who are reasonably healthy is they do get better quickly. And so, you know, how do we alert our medical system that we all need the Joe Rogan protocol at the point that we get sick?

Joe Rogan (2:04)

Yeah.

Heather Heying (2:04)

Yeah. I'd love to see the conversation that includes being healthy before you get exposed to, right? Well, that's... I mean, that's part of your outcome, is because you're a healthy guy who exercises and eats well.

And there's nothing on that in the national conversation about COVID.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

No. There's no profit in that, unfortunately. You can't sell health unless the government invests in a series of gyms that have some sort of incentive in terms of weight loss, fitness gains, and they actually profit from that or are doomed.

Bret Weinstein (2:38)

I got to say, I don't understand.

Let's take something that should be uncontroversial. Vitamin D clearly has tremendous benefits, and when people are deficient in vitamin D, they're vulnerable to all kinds of diseases, including COVID, and it's not a small difference in their vulnerability. How is it that in light of that, that we're not treating vitamin D as low-hanging fruit and just simply saying, look, this is something you have to know. It comes from being exposed to the sun. If you're not getting enough sunlight, you're probably deficient, and supplementing is likely to be helpful. How are we not recommending this?

Joe Rogan (3:10)

Probably because of the same reason why we're not recommending other drugs, because vitamin D is generic.

Bret Weinstein (3:19)

Okay, I mean, I...

Joe Rogan (3:20)

Everyone can make vitamin D. You can't corner the market. If the government comes out and says, we need to make vitamin D, they're gonna make a bunch of supplement companies a lot of money selling vitamin D. But any one, you guys can open up a supplement company, and it's literally not even FDA regulated.

Bret Weinstein (3:36)

But I mean, maybe I'm just being naive. Yeah, no matter how cynical you're being, you're being naive.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

We're trying to be rational and calm through this thing, but clearly we're all through the looking glass, and we see how insane the propaganda's been with all this horse dewormer talk in relation to ivermectin.

And we're just in this weird place where we almost don't want to admit how bad things have gotten in terms of the way information is distributed and manipulated, because it's done so in the most transparent way possible. And it's spooky. It's spooky to think that these mainstream news publications have been completely captured, completely, to the point where they're all spitting out the exact same narrative. And you're watching it in real time, and you're like, wow, this is crazy.

Heather Heying (4:26)

Yeah. I want to say something about horse dewormer.

I want to talk about her book, but I want to say something about horse dewormer first.