#170 with Jake Paul - Why Jake Paul Thinks He's Worth Billions

**Jake Paul** (0:00)
Part of it's just legacy for me. You know, just wanting to be this generation's Jay-Z or Dr. Dre.

**Sam Parr** (0:20)
Jake, do you know anything about this podcast? Do you know anything about the hustle? What's your context here? Because we know, I mean, I know everything about you or a lot, at least.

**Jake Paul** (0:30)
I'm pretty up to speed. I'm not an expert on My First Million podcast, but I know Sam, I know you from some Gary V videos and I've watched you, and yeah, Geoff has spoken super highly of you, and yeah, excited to be on the podcast and learn what it's all about.

**Sam Parr** (0:54)
Well, yeah. I'll give you the short rundown, but I'll say that whenever we talk about numbers, I feel pretty proud of them and then I talk to you and I'm like, fuck, that's not that interesting. So anyway, The Hostel got like 2 million subscribers and read by those folks each day to get their business news. And then we have a bunch of other businesses that are subsidiaries. We have this thing called Trends where we analyze cool companies.
We have this podcast, which Sean started, but we just sold the company for a fair bit of money to HubSpot like 60 days ago now, 30 days ago. And Sean had a company that he sold to Twitch or Amazon.
So that's kind of like our experience here, which is actually similar to you, Geoff. I think that, Geoff, you and I and Sean are a little bit similar. But, Jake, when we say our numbers of like X million people, I'm like, no.

**Shaan Patel** (1:46)
Five million downloads? I remember I farted once and got five million downloads.

**Jake Paul** (1:51)
I actually don't think that. I look at people who have niche followings almost as more powerful because it's what audience are you influencing over? And are they listening to what you're saying?
Can you move them into different segments? Like there's people who have maybe 10,000 followers. Like I know this yoga instructor, she has 10,000 followers, but she has like a course where a thousand people or 2,000 people are paying her to teach them yoga.

**Sam Parr** (2:21)
So for some of these YouTube folks, so what we're going to talk about today, we'll talk a little bit about you boxing. So oddly enough, Ben, so we have this thing called trends where we have a team of analysts who break down interesting companies and then we have a community where people discuss it.
Ben is a paying member of that group. I think Geoff either, I think you, I don't know if you're a paying member, but I invited you to it and I commented in the group. I go, hey, I'm interviewing Jake. He just launched this fund with Geoff, who's another member and they're going to be investing in X, Y, and Z. We're going to interview them in a couple of days. What should we ask him?
Ben was the top comment. He commented right away. What did he say? Ask him why he's such a jackass.

**Shaan Patel** (3:05)
Is it like ask him why he sucks, which is like classic Ben Askren shit talk.

**Geoffrey Woo** (3:10)
We can answer that question, but I invited him to make money on both sides. He's going to make a little bit of money from the fight and we'll help invest that money and make them even more money. I think Jake has obviously a personal tie in here, but I think we're all about business and making people money here with Antifund.

**Sam Parr** (3:29)
Yeah, and it was just funny how usually Shaan and I are like, we like MMA and stuff. When we talk about that, we have tech over here. It's like, oh my gosh, this is all one now.

**Shaan Patel** (3:39)
Once in a while in the pod, we'll do a fighting section at the last five minutes of just shit we're nerding out about, and nobody listens to it and nobody gives a fuck because our audience is all business people.
But that's me and Sam's little time that we have at the end. But I want to talk about three things. So first, I guess the headline stuff, which is you got a big fight coming up. I think it's next week, right? Next Saturday?

**Jake Paul** (3:59)
Six days from now.

**Sam Parr** (4:00)
Yeah.

**Shaan Patel** (4:02)
Six days from now.

**Sam Parr** (4:02)
All right, cool.

**Shaan Patel** (4:04)
So that's on Triller, right?

**Jake Paul** (4:06)
Yeah, trillerfightclub.com if anyone wants to order it.

**Shaan Patel** (4:11)
And I'm going to watch it because A, I'm a fight fan, but B, this is one where it's actually very interesting because normally, like, okay, I'm going to talk about your brother for a second. So your brother Logan Paul was scheduled or is scheduled to fight Floyd Mayweather, which is like, you know, it's called spade and spade. It's a pretty fucking lopsided matchup. You got the greatest boxer ever, probably never been beat, never been knocked down, going against somebody who's, you know, very much an amateur and has made their name in entertainment more so than anything else. But you vs Ben is like actually something I've gotten into many debates about because you've legit been training for years.