#1670 - David Sinclair

**David Sinclair** (0:03)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (0:17)
Always good to see you, my friend. How are you?

**David Sinclair** (0:18)
Likewise. Feeling great.

**Joe Rogan** (0:20)
I enjoyed you on the Lex Friedman podcast. I learned some things.

**David Sinclair** (0:24)
Me too. I learned that I like the guy.

**Joe Rogan** (0:27)
He's the best, isn't he?

**David Sinclair** (0:28)
Yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (0:29)
He's such an unusual human being, a brilliant guy who's incredibly humble.
He's both a martial artist and an AI scientist. I love that guy. He's so special.

**David Sinclair** (0:43)
Yeah, a philosopher, a poet.

**Joe Rogan** (0:45)
Everything. And he's so real. And he does, he pushes himself in these very unusual ways.
And I think a lot of the reason why he does it to examine his own mind and to examine his own potential. He does it as a scientist, but also as a brute. He's a weird combination of the two things because he's a legitimate black belt in jujitsu. He's really good.

**David Sinclair** (1:11)
No way. I didn't know that about him.

**Joe Rogan** (1:12)
Oh my God, you didn't know?

**David Sinclair** (1:13)
He doesn't look like he could hurt a fly.

**Joe Rogan** (1:15)
Oh, Lex will fuck you up. Lex is like a legit black belt in jujitsu.
Yeah, very good.

**David Sinclair** (1:21)
Now I'm amazed.

**Joe Rogan** (1:22)
But yeah, everybody I know that's trained with him is like, he's very good.

**David Sinclair** (1:25)
Okay. Well, what I also didn't know about him is he's been too busy to have much of a social life. So you and I and everyone else should try and find him a good woman.
That's one of my goals now.

**Joe Rogan** (1:36)
The good woman thing is God, the good man, good woman thing.
That's one of the keys to success and happiness in life. And it's so hard to find the right one. And maybe sometimes for some people, hard to recognize if you found the right one, even if you found them.

**David Sinclair** (1:53)
Well, the problem is that we're finding them in our teens and twenties often, when we have no idea what the other sex or the partner that you're looking for really is. And I have a theory that when you're young, you look for the opposite. You're attracted by what you cannot do.
But as you get older, you really wanna go for someone who's more like you.

**Joe Rogan** (2:08)
Right, where you have a friend.

**David Sinclair** (2:10)
Yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (2:10)
Someone who you can talk to about common interests.

**David Sinclair** (2:14)
Exactly, but it's tough. You know, the whole dating thing is crazy. Most of it's done through text now and you've gotta try and figure out somebody through the internet. And there's all these games about when do you reply, how long do you wait, emojis or not.

**Joe Rogan** (2:25)
Ew, emojis are not.
That's, what a 2021 dilemma. Emojis are not.

**David Sinclair** (2:35)
Yeah, don't overdo the emojis.

**Joe Rogan** (2:37)
No, no emojis?

**David Sinclair** (2:37)
Well, I'm not an expert. But back in our day, we were lucky to meet a girl at a bar or something. But these days, I think it's harder, especially during COVID.

**Joe Rogan** (2:45)
I'm happy I'm married, but if I was single, I'd be doing confetti, emojis, the big heart that blows up, whoop, I'd do all that shit.

**David Sinclair** (2:56)
You'd have a million women after you, Joe.

**Joe Rogan** (2:59)
No, I think emojis are fun. Jamie thinks they're a different language. Jamie thinks that emojis are the beginning of the next hieroglyphs. And he said it and a light bulb went off my head. And I'm like, I think he's dead right.
I think one day, we're gonna, I really believe this. And maybe you can help me out on this. I think that if someone concocted a universal language, a language that every country could adopt and understand, and they did so in, you could do it in the form of a game, where it would be like as you're getting better at it, you score points and you do better. Say if you're playing a Call of Duty type game, and in that game, in order to increase levels of the game, you must learn this new language.
And this language is an image-based language that interprets intent through some sort of emoji character system that doesn't require English or kanji or any sort of letters or any sort of way that we interpret sounds and language, which is some new, complete new thing. Kids would learn it quick.

**David Sinclair** (4:03)