#1669 - Kyle Kulinski

SPEAKER_1 (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Oh, hello, Kyle.

Kyle Kulinski (0:14)

Hello, Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Oh, it's good to see you, my friend.

Kyle Kulinski (0:16)

Oh, I'm really happy to be here. I had a great time last night watching your standup.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Oh, that was fun. That place is fun, right? Vulcan?

Kyle Kulinski (0:22)

Yeah, the place is a lot of fun. I've seen your standup three times now, and I really think that that was the best set I've seen of yours yet.

Joe Rogan (0:28)

Oh, thank you, thanks man.

Kyle Kulinski (0:29)

We were talking about it afterwards and we were like trying to put our finger on why I think it was the best, and I'm interested to hear what your thoughts on this are. But I think you said at the beginning of the show, I am fucking high as balls right now.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

That was definitely true.

Kyle Kulinski (0:44)

And it made me think that we'd probably put you in the moment a lot more, and then makes it so that, like you said, you were exercising some things and going down some paths you would normally go down.

And I think that was one of the things that made it great, because I know that whenever I'm less coached myself when I'm about to do a segment and talking about politics, it always comes off better than when I'm very rigidly going through the motions. So there's something about the off-the-cuff thing, which it felt like you were very off-the-cuff, that really the room was locked into you and you were doing a great job.

Joe Rogan (1:17)

Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, I think I'm working out stuff, so I have bits that are already formulated, but some of them I'm not really happy with, so I was trying to figure out different ways to do them, and that's what I was doing last night, just fucking around and trying to figure out new ways to talk about things.

Kyle Kulinski (1:33)

Yeah, it was, you know, comedy is an interesting art.

It really is, because the laughter is so involuntary. It's like how it's, you got to be a magician to like coax it out of people at the right time. It seems like it's nearly impossible.

Joe Rogan (1:44)

It's kind of a, sort of like a mass hypnosis.

That's what it's kind of like. It's like you're getting those people to think the way you think. You're like bringing them into your head.

Kyle Kulinski (1:56)

Yeah.

The delivery, one of the things I noticed yesterday is that, I'm curious, what percentage of comedy do you think is just delivery? Because there were a couple people who had good material, like if you write the jokes down, the jokes are good, but then with the delivery, there was something off about it and they were either rushing through it or there wasn't confidence behind it and it just fell flat. And so it makes me feel like, like Tony Hinchcliffe, for example, I was telling you this last night, he's like, he's a master at how he delivers it because it's so like confident, but also calm and deadpan that it just, he just lands when he talks, it lands. And then there's other comedians where they have to be at that higher level of energy in order for it to land. You know, you always used to say Sam Kenison was like one of your favorite for a little bit. He was on top of the world comedy.

It's interesting that the delivery seems to be almost the majority of the material. It's not even about the words. It's about how you say the words.

Joe Rogan (2:49)

It's both things. But you're right about Tony. Tony has a perfect style for his personality too where he gives you time to think about things and then he hits you with the punch line. You know, he gives you like the just the right amount of pause. And it's like if you wait an extra three seconds, it's not as good.

You got to get right in there. It's weird. It's a weird art form.

Kyle Kulinski (3:10)

For sure. Yeah, I feel like I learned that lesson the hard way when I was the loud mouth annoying kid in college talking about politics and debating the teacher.

You know what I mean? Like you lose the room instantly.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Have you always been that guy? You've always been into politics then?

Kyle Kulinski (3:25)

Yes and no. Yes, yes and no. Like I've always been that guy to some extent. But what's interesting about me and people are always surprised when they hear this is that I'm actually probably the most introverted person you've ever met in your life.