#1664 - Josh Dubin

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joshua, good to see you. What's happening?

Josh Dubin (0:20)

I'm just in awe. I love the new digs, man. Thank you. I'm just super happy for you.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

It's come together. If you were here six months ago, it looked pretty shitty.

But Matt Alvarez is kicking some ass. So let's continue this conversation. Because you guys are just talking about golf. And you're talking about how you don't want to hate golf.

Jamie (0:39)

Yeah, because everybody, it's like an inevitability.

Which happens, it's happened the one or two times I've played this year by a whole 12 out of 18 You're like, I want to get the fuck out of here. I suck.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

That's what it is.

Jamie (0:51)

Let's end this suck.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

Have you hired someone to coach you?

Jamie (0:53)

No, no, no, no. I don't want to get that far yet. That's like, I feel like you're too you're you can't come back.

Joe Rogan (0:58)

But wouldn't I I would imagine that it's like anything else. Like if you don't get a coach, then you learn bad habits and those are hard to break.

Jamie (1:06)

Yes, but I am breaking bad habits. I had started with from like my whole life of everyone trying to say, like in the four or five times you play, you're doing this wrong. Keep your head down. We'll watch the ball for you. All that kind of shit. Oh, I just started swinging the swing in the club.

However, I wanted to and the ball is going straight and far. And I was like, that's the goal of golf, right? Straight far. At least you know where it's going.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

They were all talking shit about you the other day at barbecue.

Jamie (1:30)

I'm sure.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

They were like, Jamie just whacks the ball as far as he can.

Jamie (1:33)

That's what Tony says. That's exactly what Tony was saying. Of course, because Tony saw me play golf once and he can't hit as far as me.

Joe Rogan (1:41)

Oh, so it's envy.

Josh Dubin (1:42)

A little.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

And you were saying that you don't like it, Josh. You don't...

Josh Dubin (1:47)

I don't know if it's driven by me sucking or if it's that... The culture and what's in my mind about what the culture of golf is, is like, you know, people all tucked up in whites.

And then, or the few times where I've played and felt pressure from people that were behind me to move it the fuck along. I don't know what it is. I have a very negative association when people tell me, well, deals are made on the golf course. I'm like, I don't know what kind of deals you're making. But I get how peaceful it is. And I know that my hatred is driven by my insecurity around sucking at it. But having played baseball, I like, I think there's this little ball, I should be able to hit it real far. And then I swing and miss or make a big hole in the course, which apparently isn't good.

Divots, I think they call them.

Joe Rogan (2:48)

I don't play, so I don't know. I'm scared of it.

Jamie (2:51)

Sometimes you want to divot.

Joe Rogan (2:52)

Oh, you do?

Jamie (2:52)

But it's, there's a lot to it. You know how many strokes of like, you've taught me without playing with you, pool. Like I hit it this way, hit it this way, hit the ball here, here, I can do this kind of stuff.

There's like 12 or 15, maybe 30 different kinds of strokes to make the ball flight go different ways and roll backwards, stop.

Joe Rogan (3:11)

Yeah, I've seen that where they make it land and then it actually like a draw shot. Yeah, like a draw shot in pool.

Jamie (3:18)

Yeah, a draw in golf is a draw shot.

Josh Dubin (3:21)

Am I having a mushroom flashback or something?

Joe Rogan (3:26)

This ceiling has shooting stars.

Josh Dubin (3:28)

I wasn't going to say anything the first time, but then the second time I was like, oh no, this could go bad quick.

Joe Rogan (3:33)

No, we have a shooting star. It goes across the top of the ceiling. Yeah, those games, any game like that, the problem with golf for me is that once you're committed, you're on this course, you got to go walk around.

It's a long ass place to go, it'll take you hours.

Jamie (3:50)

I have upped that though.

Joe Rogan (3:51)