#1630 - Dan Crenshaw

Joe Rogan (0:03)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Dan Crenshaw (0:14)

I have a theory on this place. No, your studio.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

Oh, what's the theory? Tell me the theory.

Dan Crenshaw (0:22)

Well, it looks like a spaceship.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

Yes.

Dan Crenshaw (0:25)

So here's my theory. Which is you had this grand master plan to get Elon Musk to admit that he's an alien.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

He's definitely an alien, but that's not correct. This was already, this already existed. Oh, really?

Dan Crenshaw (0:36)

You bought it as is?

Joe Rogan (0:37)

Yeah, well, it's a long story, and I can't get into too many details, but this was a conference room. And so we converted this, the conference room was already circular.

Dan Crenshaw (0:47)

We converted it, but you put this weird alien stuff on it.

Joe Rogan (0:51)

Yeah, this stuff we put on. These are just sound deadening panels.

Dan Crenshaw (0:55)

So that wasn't an attempt to get Elon to admit that he's an alien? Because, okay, so here's how I thought you were doing this.

You've conditioned him over time, right? You bring him into this studio, you're drinking with him, you got him really high.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

I didn't get him really high. He barely got, I don't even think he inhaled.

Did he inhale?

Dan Crenshaw (1:12)

Well, the rest of America thinks differently.

Joe Rogan (1:14)

Yeah.

He's just naturally high. Well, pop probably doesn't work on aliens.

Dan Crenshaw (1:18)

But you get him comfortable, right? And then you put him in a situation that looks like his home base. And then you ask him that question. And he answered it kind of funny. He answered it exactly like an alien would answer it, I would think.

So I don't know, did it work? What do you think?

Joe Rogan (1:36)

His denial of the possibility of alien visitation was interesting. And it got a lot of people like, hmm.

Dan Crenshaw (1:44)

Like you've never thought about it, really?

Joe Rogan (1:45)

He believes in the simulation theory.

Dan Crenshaw (1:47)

Really?

I don't believe in the simulation. Well, it doesn't explain anything, because who's running them? If they're running us, who's running them? It doesn't explain existence.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

You don't understand the simulation theory. It's not that someone's run. It becomes the universe itself. The idea is that...

Dan Crenshaw (2:05)

But somebody created it.

Joe Rogan (2:06)

Yes.

Dan Crenshaw (2:07)

But who created them?

Joe Rogan (2:11)

Listen, if we exist, we do exist. We agree to that?

Dan Crenshaw (2:13)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

Right. And we agree that we have fantastic technology that's indistinguishable from magic if you brought it to 300, 400 years ago.

What we experience now is nothing in comparison, especially as the laws of technology and they expand at an exponential rate. If you look at what we can do now and look at what we're going to be capable of 100 years from now or 1000 years from now, it's going to be impossible to distinguish between reality and simulated reality. They will develop an alternative virtual reality that's impossible to distinguish from. So the question is, how do you know if that hasn't already taken place? And maybe that's how the universe works.

Maybe the idea of things being concrete and physical that you can touch and things that you can weigh is just the experience that we've currently been accustomed to. And maybe that's not the whole way the universe works.

Dan Crenshaw (3:09)

Yeah, I had this conversation with Scott Adams. He was on my podcast, and I was kind of... I had to think about it later.

And it still fails to explain existence for me. Because if we're the ones who created it, then still somebody like us in a future state still created the reality that we're in. And I get that there's this kind of circular reasoning associated with it, but it still fails to explain some basic truths.

Joe Rogan (3:35)

But it doesn't. It doesn't. Because here's the thing. You have single-celled organisms, they turn into multi-celled organisms as they evolve, and then eventually you get something that's sentient and also can alter its environment. That's human beings. That thing starts creating these virtual worlds. And these virtual worlds are run by artificial intelligence that becomes sentient as well. So that artificial intelligence continues to create newer and better virtual worlds, and then it's a self-sustaining system. And this self-sustaining system becomes a new version of reality. If you think about the idea of multiple dimensions and even multiple universes, there's an infinite number of possibilities for not just life, but life-creating technology that we can't even wrap our heads around.