#1628 - Eric Weinstein

Joe Rogan (0:21)

Those are the only ones I know. I don't know another...

Salute. Mazel Tov, L'chaim, Nestrovyev. What's the other one? Skol. What's that?

Eric Weinstein (0:32)

Skol.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

What's skol?

Eric Weinstein (0:33)

Skol, I don't know. Is that Swedish, German, something?

Joe Rogan (0:36)

Is that a Viking one?

Jamie (0:37)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:37)

Oh. Use your microphone, fella.

Jamie (0:41)

I don't know how to say slante.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

What is that one?

Jamie (0:43)

The Irish one.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Oh, I don't know that one. Yeah.

Jamie's throwing extra ones in there. There we go. What's up, brother? How are you?

Eric Weinstein (0:51)

Well, how are you?

Joe Rogan (0:52)

You look like a businessman.

Eric Weinstein (0:53)

Is that right?

Joe Rogan (0:54)

Are you a businessman?

Eric Weinstein (0:54)

I'm trying to be one.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

I thought you were a professional clubhouse guest.

Eric Weinstein (0:58)

No, no, no. The thing is, right, it's the only platform that I have more followers on than you because you're only there once, I think.

Joe Rogan (1:06)

Yeah, one and done. It's just like podcasting for people who don't have a podcast.

Eric Weinstein (1:12)

Well, the interesting question is, do you think that it has any ability to figure out a way of killing podcasting? Because that's what they think.

Joe Rogan (1:20)

They're crazy. No, impossible. Because the beautiful thing about podcasting is that you're capturing a conversation, and it's uninterrupted. The thing that happened with your brother should have put the nail in the coffin in that format.

Eric Weinstein (1:34)

Oh, you mean the struggle session?

Joe Rogan (1:35)

Yes.

The fact that someone can come in and kick everyone off that disagrees with them, take over the room, and that they did it just because they decided... What was the reason why they gave her the option to kick everybody out and gave her administrative power or whatever it is?

Eric Weinstein (1:52)

I think she'd been historically oppressed or something.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

Oh, that's why?

Eric Weinstein (1:56)

I guess. I don't know.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

Well, from what I understand, the conversation before she came on was very clumsy. That's what everybody was saying.

It left an opening for someone like her to come in and go, shut the fuck up, get out of here. But the way she treated your brother...

Eric Weinstein (2:14)

I did not listen to this, by the way.

Joe Rogan (2:15)

You shouldn't. It'll infuriate you.

He said he's an evolutionary biologist. And these kids were like, oh, you're in eugenics. You believe in eugenics. He's like, no, no. And they basically just steamrolled him, called him a racist, and cut him off.

It was very infuriating. They didn't want to have a conversation with him. They wanted to belittle him. They wanted him to proclaim that he's anti-racist and, you know...

Eric Weinstein (2:44)

I've seen this movie before.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Yeah, it's not good. But it's just the fact that that can happen in the platform, you know. It was just...

When you're doing something like that, when someone can come in and just kick all the other people out that they don't agree with...

Eric Weinstein (2:58)

Yeah, sure.

Joe Rogan (2:58)

Like, you can just join in a conversation that's already rolling.

Eric Weinstein (3:01)

Well, of course, he could have left. He just doesn't want to back down.

Joe Rogan (3:04)

He was trying to make sense. He was trying to express himself.

I know. It's a problem.

Eric Weinstein (3:10)

We gotta fix that.

Joe Rogan (3:12)

But, I mean, the clubhouse thing seems like a fun social thing to do.

Like I enjoyed doing it with Tim Dillon because Tim was in here with me and we were yucking it up and goofing on it. And then your brother jumped in on the conversation and Naval was in the conversation.

Eric Weinstein (3:28)

That's where it gets more interesting, which is the serendipity that's possible. Because normally the logistics of getting us all in one place, it's difficult. It's expensive. Nobody really is up for it because it's probably not as high quality as a point to point conversation. But the serendipity of saying, Yes. Okay, I saw two people I never thought would be in the same room and then 12 other people and you know, at first, I think that's exciting. But then the danger of it is that they're going to burn through the novelty effects. You're going to have seen all these people collide.

Joe Rogan (3:58)

Well, maybe. I mean, there's an, you know, it's almost like chess moves.