#1615 - Hamilton Morris

**Jamie** (0:04)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Joe Rogan** (0:16)
Good to see you, man. What's happening? This is our third podcast, but not really. I only count two of them. Because of the first one, we were literally so stoned, we couldn't communicate.
Remember that one?

**Hamilton Morris** (0:29)
I remember it well.
I like it. I feel like I'm getting the tour. First, it was your home, then the LA location, and now this new intermediate red tube.

**Joe Rogan** (0:39)
Yeah, the red tube. Some folks call it the red pill, but that also has a lot of negative connotations.

**Hamilton Morris** (0:44)
The red tube, then?

**Joe Rogan** (0:45)
Yeah, the whatever it is. This is podcast studio number one, two, three, four, five?
It's number five?
I think it's number five. It might be number six. One, yeah. Well, number seven or number six, whichever is right next door. And it's going to be, it's going to be all I've learned from constructing podcast studios. This one was very haphazardly constructed last minute because we made the decision to get the fuck out of LA and we had five weeks. Then my friend Matt Alvarez put this place together in five weeks, set it all up. And then five weeks later, we were broadcasting from Texas.

**Hamilton Morris** (1:33)
It looks good.

**Joe Rogan** (1:34)
It's not bad.
It's okay. It's odd.

**Hamilton Morris** (1:37)
What is the optimal arrangement going to be?

**Joe Rogan** (1:40)
The optimal arrangement is probably less weird on the eyes. Like the thing about this is like you're looking around, you're like, why are there backlights behind those sound panels? Why is everything red and black?
Why is it like tube shaped and it's just, it's an odd room, man. It's odd. I like it.
I just don't, I just think we could do better. We can make it weird. Plus I'm bored. I get bored easy. I've been here for six months. I want to mix it up.

**Hamilton Morris** (2:06)
Yeah.

**Joe Rogan** (2:07)
Mix it up.
Yeah. How's Brooklyn?

**Hamilton Morris** (2:10)
It's grim.

**Joe Rogan** (2:11)
Is it?

**Hamilton Morris** (2:11)
It's grim right now. I've lived in New York for the majority of my life. I love New York City, and this is by far the grimmest I have ever seen it.
I mean, this winter, because it's everything that the entire country is facing, but it's the worst for COVID. It's also extremely cold. A lot of city services seem to have been impaired in one way or another. The streets are covered in garbage and ice and dog shit.
And you can't, pretty much the only thing that I can do to maintain my sanity is run, but everything, including the outdoor running track, is covered in ice and shit. And so it's just this dystopian, frozen, pandemic landscape where every local business that I loved is closing down. It's a dark time.

**Joe Rogan** (3:01)
Yeah, I hear that about Los Angeles. I saw a lot of it, but I got out early. I saw the writing on the wall, and I was looking to move in May.
Once the lockdown got extended, once we were just going to lock down for two weeks to flatten the curve, I was like, that makes sense. And then here we are in April, all the way through April. Here we are in May. And then I'm like, oh, they're never going to let us out of this.
And then the crime started happening, and it started getting dark. And I was like, oh, we got to get the fuck out of here. The homeless thing was like flowers blooming out of rocks, out of cracks in the concrete. It's like more tents, tents. Los Angeles is filled with tents. You can't believe it. When I tell people about it and then they go there, they're like, oh, I thought you were exaggerating. No, I was understating. Los Angeles is overwhelmed with tents. It's fucking crazy. You can't believe that on La Brea, they just allow people to set up tents everywhere.
It's nuts.

**Hamilton Morris** (4:04)
Well, yeah. What are people going to do?

**Joe Rogan** (4:06)
That's the question. What are people going to do? Yeah. Where are you going to put them? Do you have hospitals available for them? And a lot of those, the problem is a lot of those shelters, they won't let them do drugs.
Yeah. And a lot of these people are like, I would rather be in a fucking tent outside by the beach than be under your thumb, because Los Angeles doesn't get cold. You know, I mean, a cold day is 50, you know, it's a big deal.