#1611 - Freddie Gibbs & Brian Moses

Freddie Gibbs (0:15)

But you know why they got rid of it, right?

Brian Moses (0:17)

Why?

Freddie Gibbs (0:17)

Black people.

SPEAKER_3 (0:18)

Really?

Freddie Gibbs (0:19)

That's why they got rid of it? So, yeah, this is actually, this is-

Joe Rogan (0:22)

Hold these thoughts, hold these thoughts. Tell me when, you good?

But Roland, did he get that already? Oh, Jamie already got that. All right, so finish your thoughts.

Freddie Gibbs (0:30)

Yeah, so the reason the.45 caliber bullet exists and the reason they got rid of, or the reason they made cocaine illegal is because when blacks were working the docs in the late 1800s, early 1900s, they had these things, there was a rape, obviously, that's what always happens, right? Emmett Till, all of them, right? So a woman reported a rape and a cop, he came up, and there was a black dude on cocaine, because they would give the doc workers cocaine to keep them up all night. That's when it was legal.

And then there was a coked up black dude, right? Real big dude, I guess.

And a woman was saying, he's chasing me, right? And he was just, I don't know what the fuck was going on, but the cop was shooting at him and there was no stopping power enough, they said, for the bullet. So they'd make a bigger bullet, the.45 caliber bullet, because what they're using was like a little over a.22.

Brian Moses (1:15)

Damn, and you know, this is some real shit because it was a crackhead back in the day, I shot that nigga nine times with a Tech 9 and he kept running down the alley.

Freddie Gibbs (1:24)

Hmm, different, different crack though. Different coke.

Brian Moses (1:26)

That was crack, they said, that was coke, this was crack.

Freddie Gibbs (1:28)

Yes, medicinal cocaine.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

Coking crack, according to Carl Hart, they're the same thing.

Brian Moses (1:33)

They are the same thing. One just has baking soda, that's all. You're just freeing the base of the powder, that's why it's called free base.

Freddie Gibbs (1:46)

That's what they called them.

Joe Rogan (1:47)

The difference is in sentencing.

That's the difference. The difference in sentencing is craziness.

Brian Moses (1:55)

Didn't Obama change that shit?

Joe Rogan (1:57)

Somebody must. I don't believe it's the same anymore.

Brian Moses (2:01)

I think Obama changed it. I want to say he did but I don't know.

Joe Rogan (2:04)

Let's find out if the same sentencing for crack and cocaine. You know, that's the same shit they did with marijuana, Let's go back to marijuana. When William Randolph Hearst was trying to make marijuana illegal, they put out these stories saying that black and Mexicans were raping white women, and they blamed it on this drug, they blamed it on marijuana, when marijuana wasn't even called marijuana back then. Marijuana was a wild Mexican tobacco, so they made this new name. So when Congress was making marijuana illegal, they didn't even know they were making hemp illegal.

What the target was, was hemp the commodity. They were trying to make the paper illegal, and they were trying to make the textiles illegal. Because William Randolph Hearst, not only did he run Hearst newspapers, but he also had paper mills.

And then on the popular science magazine, on the cover, it said hemp the new billion dollar crop. Because they came up with a new way of processing it, a new machine called a decorticator. And so when they invented this decorticator, it was exactly the same kind of thing. And then when they invented this thing, people were gonna start growing hemp, and hemp is a superior paper, it's better for clothing. And William Hanan at first was like, not so fast. So he made it all illegal, so that he could just keep his paper mills and keep making them with wood and keep using all the things that he's already used before.

Brian Moses (3:20)

Instead of hemp.

Joe Rogan (3:20)

Controlling the industry.

Freddie Gibbs (3:21)

That's amazing that they could literally just say that about black people. They're raping everybody. Well, we gotta get rid of it then.

Joe Rogan (3:26)

They made up a name for the plant. The plant already had cannabis. So they called it marijuana. It was like, oh my God, like bath salts. Like, oh, geez, it's a new thing. What is this?

That's what, you know, PCP is the same thing as ketamine?

Freddie Gibbs (3:41)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

I didn't know that either.

Brian Moses (3:43)

Yeah, ketamine, special K. When I went to Australia, that's all the bitches were snorting. They ain't had no real cocaine.