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#1608 - Michael Malice

The Joe Rogan Experience

February 10, 2021

Michael Malice is a cultural commentator and host of the GaS Digital Network podcast "Your Welcome". He's the author of two books, "Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong Il", and "The New Right: A Journey to the Fringe of American Politics", and co-author of many others.

Speakers Joe Rogan, Michael Malice, Jamie

TopicsComedy

Joe Rogan (0:17)

How are you doing? So, I knew you were going to have an Android phone, because that's the type of personality that you have.

Michael Malice (0:23)

I still don't understand what that means.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

You, you, if everybody has an iPhone, you're going to get an Android phone.

Michael Malice (0:29)

Because I'm better than everybody?

Joe Rogan (0:30)

No, because you're a contrarian.

Michael Malice (0:31)

Can't it be both?

Joe Rogan (0:32)

Yes, you're better than everybody and a contrarian. And you also probably use a Windows laptop.

Michael Malice (0:38)

I have a Chromebook.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Ah, even more.

Michael Malice (0:41)

Which was gifted to me by a fan. Thank you, Warren.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Chromebooks are actually pretty logical, because mostly what people do is scroll. They just go online and scroll.

Michael Malice (0:50)

Well, I don't leave the house. So what do I need a laptop for?

Joe Rogan (0:53)

Are you like completely locked down in New York City?

Michael Malice (0:56)

Oh, I just meant because I don't like, I love my house. It wasn't because of Corona. This has been the case for many years.

Joe Rogan (1:02)

So you haven't altered your behavior much at all because of Corona, because this is what you've always done?

Michael Malice (1:07)

Well, I've altered it in that, like, I want to travel more, but everywhere's closed.

Joe Rogan (1:12)

Are you worried about the virus at all?

Michael Malice (1:14)

No, I'm worried about the response to the virus. And this has given some very, very bad people some very useful information about how much crap people put up with.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Yes.

Michael Malice (1:25)

And that we're at a point where it's just like, oh, yeah, we're just going to open up, even though the metrics are worse than when we were closed. But now, double masks. Why not? And there was an Onion article from 99 that said, drinking dog pee lessens risks of cancer, snickering researchers say.

And I'm telling you, if they told people to start drinking dog pee, people would be on Twitter wondering what the best breed.

Joe Rogan (1:49)

If Fauci said it, they would do it. There would be a large percentage of the population that would be sucking some.

Michael Malice (1:55)

And would be yelling at you that you're not doing it.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

Yes.

Michael Malice (1:59)

Because how dare you not drink the golden retriever pee, which is the golden standard of pee, to keep grandma from dying.

Joe Rogan (2:08)

Well, I think that's one of the things that's really fascinating about this pandemic, is that it's happening during the time of social media, where we've never had anything like this before, where groupthink is encouraged and forced. And people, also, because of the pandemic, so many people are just online all day.

Michael Malice (2:25)

Sure.

Joe Rogan (2:25)

Because they're unemployed or they're at work from home and they're not really working, they're just on Twitter all day. And you're seeing these really crazy behavior patterns. It's like people ganging up on people.

Michael Malice (2:38)

I don't think they're crazy at all. I think, you know, I had this tweet where it was a huge backlash. And I said, if you replace the term coronavirus with Jews, all of a sudden the behavior of 1930s Germany makes a lot more sense. Because one of the big questions back in the day is how did Hitler pull this off? How do you convince a population of educated people to behave in just the most inhuman ways? And what we're seeing is when low status people are given an excuse to assert dominance over other people for whatever reason, illegitimate in that case, somewhat legitimate in this case, they will champ at the bit to tell you to sit down and shut up and obey. It decentralizes the enforcement mechanism. I was on the subway in New York. I've been in New York all my life. I've never seen anything like this, where an older man in his 50s was yelling at an Asian dude who wasn't like a rickshaw. He was just like a regular Asian dude standing over him screaming, where's your mask? Go back where you came from.

And it's like if you're this concerned about the virus, why are you coming close to him?

You don't care about the virus. This is your excuse to be dominant and aggressive over someone in the most despicable way possible.

Joe Rogan (3:40)

That's a lot of what you see in social media, right? A lot of the really shitty behavior is an excuse to be shitty, you know, like they found an in to exert their shitty behavior.

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