#1562 - Dave Smith

Dave Smith (0:19)

I came in, I was doing my buddy Scott Horton's show, and hanging out with him for a little bit.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

And you're looking for a place to escape.

Dave Smith (0:27)

Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan (0:28)

New York, Schultz told me that New York is like, they just won World War III. People are dancing in the streets.

Dave Smith (0:34)

I was there in Union Square the other day. We did a show at the stand, and it was the day they called it for Biden.

And as much as I just despise Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, it was kind of nice for the city to just have one.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

Yeah.

Dave Smith (0:47)

Just to have a day. It's the only day that it's felt happy there since March.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

Here too, people are honking in the streets. I went to dinner with Tom Segura, he was in town, and we were driving down the streets. People were honking and cheering, and people were so happy.

I'm happy for people to be happy. Yeah. I like that.

Dave Smith (1:05)

Even if they're happy for a stupid reason, you're like, at least be happy.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

It's just, it's too complicated. And you're a guy who knows a lot about politics.

And the way the world works. But it's too complicated to really go into depth about it for most people. So, so many people just have this sort of cursory understanding of politics, and then they follow a narrative. The narrative is Trump is bad, you get him out, Biden's good. And then you go, yeah, well, what about the crime bill? What about the Iraq war? What about this and that and that? What about what she did? And the, the, nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear it. All they want to say is that the good guys won. Now we're going to go back to being America again.

And then Pfizer announces a new vaccine.

Dave Smith (1:51)

Well, it would be nice if we could go back to being America again. I think we're still far off from that happening, but you're, you're right that I think most people, and this is, it's not just politics. It's true with everything in life. Like most people have expertise in very limited areas.

And for everything else, you're kind of just trusting what somebody else tells you.

Joe Rogan (2:11)

Yeah, and especially with politics, it's so, I know very little about it, even though I've read a lot about it. I'm still, I'm like, what is all this?

You know there's some fuckery going on, and you know there's a lot of special interests, and there's a lot of money, and there's a lot of shenanigans. But it's like, to really know how this stuff works, to really understand lobbyists, to really understand how bills get passed, to really understand Congress, to really understand the Senate, like you got a deep dive for years.

Dave Smith (2:44)

Yeah, and then you still don't know a lot of it. I mean, you can go based off, say like what's been declassified that the CIA has been doing, but what do we not know? I mean, and there's a whole lot that we don't know. But I think we know enough to know that it stinks, that there's a lot of corruption.

And in many ways, I think that's what Trump, at least the people who support Trump, saw him as, as the guy who was outside that system, who was kind of fighting for them. Not saying that's the truth, but I think that's what a lot of Trump supporters saw in him.

Joe Rogan (3:17)

Yeah, that was the simplistic comic book version of what Trump was to them. And that's where that QAnon stuff all comes in, and people thinking that it's really like this plot to stop child molesters.

Dave Smith (3:29)

Yeah, well, and the system is always corrupt enough to give cover to the wildest conspiracy theory, because they are already, you could say, okay, well, perhaps QAnon conspiracy theorists believe some really crazy shit, but then you just go, but look at what happened with this Jeffrey Epstein guy.

I mean, there really was this child sex trafficking ring that was covered up. I mean, we have that woman on ABC News who was basically saying, I broke the story, and my bosses told me no.

Joe Rogan (4:01)

I think it was NBC.

Dave Smith (4:02)

Was it NBC? Yeah, we broke the story, but they wanted to protect access to the royal family.

So we would let a powerful multimillionaire or billionaire child sex trafficking ring leader skate because we wanted access to the royal family.