#1559 - Steven Rinella

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Steven Rinella (0:18)

I wish he was my friend still. It was, when I was younger, I don't know how I came into his orbit, but there was a fur buyer and taxidermist and muskrat trapper in Muskegon County where I grew up in Michigan and he had amassed a very impressive collection of baculums.

Joe Rogan (0:41)

And you brought this up because Frank Von Hipple had given us this fossilized walrus, ancient walrus dick bone.

Steven Rinella (0:49)

Pecker bone, swizzle stick.

Yeah. A friend of mine, Clay Newcomb, he uses them for very, he saves the black bear ones and people use them as drink stirrers and stuff.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

The first deer I ever killed, you gave me one and I was using it as a coffee stirrer for a while.

Steven Rinella (1:09)

Oh, no, it's not like an actual bone bone in there.

Joe Rogan (1:12)

Isn't there a bone bone in there?

Steven Rinella (1:13)

No.

Joe Rogan (1:14)

Well, you gave me one. You might not have given me one from that.

You gave me one from something else.

Steven Rinella (1:19)

Maybe a raccoon or a bear or something. I have to look at it.

Joe Rogan (1:22)

I don't know, but you gave me a dick bone and I had it in my backpack for a long time.

Steven Rinella (1:26)

Oh, huh. Yeah, so.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

How often do you give away dick bones?

Steven Rinella (1:31)

You don't even remember that. Well, I wish I had more to share. This guy, this Bob Farris guy, we used to laugh because he looked like, Bob Farris looked exactly like Bob Dylan.

And he's got to be around still. I remember being over his house one day and him advising someone over the phone with an earshot of me. I remember this guy was going out to set muskrat traps. And I remember Bob Farris advising him, if anybody fucks with you, shoot them. And I was young enough that I didn't get that that was a humor thing. You know, whatever, just a thing you'd say to your buddy to have a laugh. And I remember being like, man, these guys are serious about muskrats. I was like, I hope I don't run into that dude in the marsh.

And now I'm like, oh yeah, I could totally see saying that to somebody and then we'd have a laugh and get off the phone.

Joe Rogan (2:20)

How many animals have that bone?

Steven Rinella (2:21)

Man, you know, I wish I knew. And I don't even know what, yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:28)

It's not universal.

Steven Rinella (2:29)

No, no, it'd be interesting to look up. I never, until right now, I never gave it any thought to like, what classification of things has, like what classification of things has, like an actual baculum, an actual pecker bone?

You know, all the weasels have it.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

I think chimps have it.

Steven Rinella (2:48)

We don't. Weasels do.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Here it goes.

It's absent human, ungulates, elephants, what is that? Monotremes, monotremes? What is that word?

Steven Rinella (3:01)

Monotremes, oh, the platypus.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

Oh, okay.

Steven Rinella (3:03)

And echidna.

Joe Rogan (3:05)

Barsupials, lagomorphs, hyenas, bino-tarongs, sirenians, and cetaceans, among others. Evidence suggests that the baculum was independently evolved nine times and lost in ten separate lineages.

Steven Rinella (3:23)

God, it just keeps coming up, man. Yeah, it just keeps coming up.

They need to have one of those.

Joe Rogan (3:30)

They need, yeah, a built-in hardon.

Steven Rinella (3:34)

That's a really nice one. I like that one.

There are some that are big enough, I don't know what they're off, there's some that are big enough to be used as a cane.

Joe Rogan (3:43)

Really? What animal is that?

Steven Rinella (3:45)

I thought it was like certain walrus ones, people used to use them as canes.

Joe Rogan (3:48)

Well, that's not small, that one right there. And it's interesting because of the fact that it's fossilized, it's so heavy. Imagine carrying that between your legs.

Steven Rinella (3:58)

I wish I had a, I feel like I wanna challenge you on, I feel like I wanna challenge you on that being fossilized.

Joe Rogan (4:05)

Well, he said it was fossilized. You don't think it is? You think by the appearance, because it's so light?

But doesn't it feel heavy as shit?

Steven Rinella (4:14)

I don't wanna get in over my weighters here, but I, I want to challenge that. But I would need to scrape into it with a pocket knife and not wanna do that to your baculum.