#1542 - Cameron Hanes

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. Hello, Cameron Hanes.

Cameron Hanes (0:13)

What's up?

Joe Rogan (0:14)

What's going on, buddy? Good to see you.

Cameron Hanes (0:16)

Oh, man. It's good to be here in the spaceship. Look at this.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

It's weird, right?

Cameron Hanes (0:20)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

It's very polarizing.

People love it or hate it. A lot of people hate it.

Cameron Hanes (0:25)

Oh, really?

Joe Rogan (0:25)

Yeah.

Cameron Hanes (0:26)

I think it's cool.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

I like it.

Cameron Hanes (0:27)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:27)

I don't love it.

Cameron Hanes (0:28)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

I don't think it's perfect, but I think it's interesting.

We did it really quickly. I mean, we decided to move here within six weeks we were here.

I said this on a video on my Instagram, but I should probably say it again. You live up there in Oregon. Yes. And I said something incorrect. I said about there was a guy who got... I know there was one guy who got arrested for lighting fires, and I thought I'd read some other shit about activists getting arrested for lighting fires or Antifa people. Shouldn't you call them activists? What do you call them? Crazy people.

Cameron Hanes (0:57)

Idiots.

Joe Rogan (0:58)

Morons.

But it's not true. So, sorry if you heard me say that. Jamie informed me of it today. It's one thing about being out of the loop. You don't know when people are mad at you.

But this time, I agree with them. Like they're mad at me for something that...

Cameron Hanes (1:11)

Well, somebody did get arrested for a Molotov cocktail.

Joe Rogan (1:14)

I read that. That turns out to be true. He got arrested and then he got out of jail and then lit some more things on fire. But see, here's the thing. When you say Antifa, what does that mean?

It could just be a crazy person.

And that's what a lot of Antifa is. Like that guy that shot that dude in Portland, the guy that shot the Trump supporter, that guy's a crazy person. He's dead now. He was a crazy person. Just decided to pile on to this thing and become an activist. But when you don't have an entry examination, anyone can just join up.

Cameron Hanes (1:50)

You just show up.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

Yeah, you just show up and now you're Antifa. Now you're a part of the resistance.

But I fucked up. I said that people, a lot of people were arrested. I read some shit about it. I don't remember where I read it, about all these people getting arrested for lighting wildfires, but it wasn't true. It was just this one guy for sure.

Cameron Hanes (2:06)

I think they should have been arrested. Maybe that's the difference.

Joe Rogan (2:09)

Well, I see that's why it made sense to me because they had been arrested for lighting fires in, or they hadn't been arrested. They had been seeing lighting fires and throwing them into the mayor of Portland's apartment lobby.

Cameron Hanes (2:23)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:23)

And they were lighting fires out in the street in front of his apartment. It just, when someone said, oh, look at all these arrests, they're arresting people for lighting fires. I just went, oh, that makes sense. And I just repeated it.

I'm very upset with myself. I don't like when I repeat shit that's not true. That's definitely not true.

Cameron Hanes (2:40)

Yeah, I mean, it's a hard time though.

Joe Rogan (2:42)

It's your spot up there though.

Cameron Hanes (2:43)

It is.

Joe Rogan (2:44)

That's your area.

Cameron Hanes (2:45)

Yeah, it's, you know, people, and they find out, oh, you're from Oregon. So what do you think of all, you know, it's just, it's kind of embarrassing to, just because I understand people have an opinion and they want change and they, you know, maybe it's, maybe some of it is valid, but I don't agree with a hundred nights of burning or however many nights has been of just burning and ruining a city. I don't, I don't understand how that, I mean, eventually maybe one night have a protest, do whatever, get your message out, talk to people, but just destruction.

I don't get that.

Joe Rogan (3:20)

I think it's exactly what we were just saying, that you get enough people that join on to a movement and the movement has no like directive or leaders. They're just there showing up and you're gonna get morons that do things like light books on fire and throw them into the lobby, like doing all the things that they were doing, trying to break into the federal building. It's just, people are nuts, man. And people are there, everyone's, so many angry people right now too. That's also part of the problem. So many people are angry.