#1520 - Dr. Debra Soh

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Three, two, one. Hello, Debra.

We were just talking, you're locked up in Toronto. You were thinking about flying here, but they fill the planes now, you were saying, which is a little disturbing. I did not know they're doing that.

Debra Soh (0:17)

Yeah, they usually would leave the middle seat open, but as of about a month or so ago, they book it fully now. So I was super excited. I'm so sad that I can't be there with you because I've been counting down the days, and I was thinking, I have to at least be in LA to do Joe's show, but it was just a bit scared.

Joe Rogan (0:33)

Well, it's scary. It's weird. I mean, how many people have you known that have caught it now?

Debra Soh (0:38)

Actually, nobody.

Everybody I know knows at least one or two people. I don't know anyone, so I'm very, very lucky.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

I'm up to nine friends. Nine friends have gotten it.

Debra Soh (0:49)

Wild.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

Two of them got it bad.

Two of them got it really bad to the point where they were hospitalized.

But yeah, it's one of them was an older guy, and one of them is a guy who was 45 who just was run. My friend Michael Yo, who's just run down. He was just really exhausted from too much traveling and too much. I mean, it was really a crazy schedule that he was on, and he wound up catching it. He had it bad. He was hospitalized for a week.

Debra Soh (1:16)

Is he doing okay now?

Joe Rogan (1:17)

He's fine now, but his endurance is really low. Like his lung capacity suffered.

Debra Soh (1:24)

That's the thing, because when this happened, I felt like, okay, everything has to stop, and I have to take care of myself just to me. We take it for granted, right, when you're healthy.

But the minute something like this happens, this is something that I would have never even thought about.

Joe Rogan (1:36)

Are you taking a lot of vitamin D?

Debra Soh (1:40)

No, I'm actually... Everyone has been telling me to take vitamin D. I take Omega.

Joe Rogan (1:44)

Well, that's good, but you should really... Vitamin C and vitamin D are critical in zinc. Zinc is critical. But vitamin D, in particular, they did a study, several studies, actually. Dr. Rhonda Patrick was on the podcast talking about it, and she said that there was several studies that showed that in the people that were in the ICU with COVID, more than 80% of them were insufficient when their vitamin D levels, and only 4% were sufficient.

Yeah, so it's not a prevent-all, it's not provable, but there's gotta be some sort of a correlation.

Debra Soh (2:19)

I feel like if you're giving me personalized advice, I should probably take it, because I'm sure a lot of people would pay a lot of money for this.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

I don't think they would.

I think you're wrong. A few people would probably. But I've talked to enough people that I think vitamin D, zinc, and vitamin C seem to be critical, but just overall health is very important. I mean, it's one of the things that my friend Andrew Schultz was saying that was exposed by this pandemic.

The vulnerabilities of our economic system and the vulnerabilities of our health system. Like human beings have, there's too many of us that are just not well. We don't take care of ourselves. So when something like this happens, you don't just get sick, you get, you know, you could die from it. Whereas the vast majority of people that get it, you know, they're not going to die from it, but there's enough that it's a significant number. It's scary stuff.

Debra Soh (3:12)

Who could have predicted that this was ever going to happen?

Joe Rogan (3:14)

Not me. So what's it like in Toronto these days?

Debra Soh (3:19)

It hasn't been bad. We're almost back to normal. So that's been very exciting. Yeah.

For me, I've been writing this book for the last year. So my life hasn't actually changed that much, which probably sounds really crazy. But when you're writing a book, you're literally inside working all the time.

Joe Rogan (3:34)

Yeah. So explain to people what the book is.

Debra Soh (3:37)

So the book is called The End of Gender. And before I go any further, I'm going to explain the title because some people, I think, misinterpret what I, when I announced it on social media, some people were getting upset because I think they thought I was taking a very, very far left progressive view. And I consider myself to be a liberal. I'm definitely not far left, but, you know, I have liberal values, I'm pro-science.