#1514 - Joe De Sena

Joe De Sena (0:00)

Thanks for doing this.

Joe Rogan (0:01)

My pleasure, hello Joe, how are you? We're Rogan.

Nice to meet you.

Joe De Sena (0:05)

Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

So, The Cattle Bell, you bring this fucking thing everywhere you go. Literally everywhere?

Joe De Sena (0:10)

I do, I lived overseas, and I started it, you know why I started it? I had a 696 pound guy come to the farm six years ago, and he wanted to help losing weight. And I helped him over 18 months get down to 265 pounds. Wow. And one of the methods I used to motivate him was I said, as you lose weight, I'll carry weight.

And eventually I was carrying a 100 pound sandbag. Fast forward, and we can get into it, I moved overseas with my family, and I tried to carry that 100 pound sandbag because I had made that commitment to him. And they wouldn't let it through TSA. So when I landed in Asia, I asked my wife, I said, hey, could you order a 20 pound, it's stupid that I'm carrying a sandbag, can you order a 20 pound kettlebell? I'll just carry a 20 pounder around so I'm not a complete fraud.

And she confused pounds with kilograms, and I ended up with a 44 pounder, and it just became my shtick, my thing.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

So when you say you carry it everywhere, I mean, you go everywhere with it.

Joe De Sena (1:17)

I go everywhere with it. So during the pandemic, I haven't, I wouldn't carry it if we were going to a grocery store, but if I'm traveling to see you or I'm going anywhere in the world, kettlebells come with me, Vegas, anywhere.

Joe Rogan (1:27)

Do you take it as a carry on?

Joe De Sena (1:29)

Depends on the country. We operate in a lot of countries and every country treats it differently. So some US flights, they'll let me carry it on, which is strange.

Others, they ask me to check it.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

You know, they won't let you bring a pool cue on a plane?

Joe De Sena (1:43)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

Because they say it's like a weapon. How is that not like a weapon?

Joe De Sena (1:46)

Well, my answer to them is you'd have to be pretty fucking strong.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

You're pretty fucking strong. You could smash somebody with one of those things.

Joe De Sena (1:54)

No, but they've let me bring it on planes. China doesn't mind at all. India, in India, you're gonna love this, they ask me to put it in someone else's luggage.

So in other words, somebody had just dropped off their luggage. I'm checking the kettlebell. Stick it in that blue suitcase. Get it when you get to the other end.

Joe Rogan (2:10)

You don't even know who the person is?

Joe De Sena (2:11)

I don't even know who the person is.

Joe Rogan (2:12)

Oh, that's insane.

Joe De Sena (2:12)

So I get there and I have to explain to this person in India why I'm opening their suitcase to get my kettlebell out.

Joe Rogan (2:19)

Do they speak English, the person you're speaking to?

Joe De Sena (2:21)

In this particular case, no.

Joe Rogan (2:24)

So what did they say when you pull a fucking kettlebell out?

Joe De Sena (2:26)

They were confused, they don't know. But if you act with authority, they just assume maybe I work for the airline or who knows.

Joe Rogan (2:32)

Oh my God, that's hilarious.

Joe De Sena (2:34)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

That's so ridiculous. Is that standard behavior in India?

Joe De Sena (2:39)

Well.

Joe Rogan (2:40)

How many times have you been over there?

Joe De Sena (2:41)

I've been to India twice. It's happened twice in India.

Joe Rogan (2:44)

Same thing?

Joe De Sena (2:45)

Same thing.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Put it in somebody else's bag.

Joe De Sena (2:47)

Somebody else's bag. In the Middle East, they give me a sentence which I can't recall, but it basically says it's going to be up to God if this comes out the other end.

Joe Rogan (2:59)

Really?

Joe De Sena (3:00)

For real.

They've lost a dozen of them in the United States. In the United States, once, you're going to love this. I get to JFK, and there are two stories in the baggage claim. So I go to the large luggage area because I'm hoping that's where it should be, but I hear some noise on the conveyor belt above me.

Sure enough, the fucking kettlebell comes flying down the steep ramp. Almost takes out a TSA, you know, a customs officer. Dents all, I'm embarrassed to say, dents all the stainless steel, right? But I walk over embarrassed, pick up the kettlebell and walk out.