#1512 - Ben Shapiro

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Hello, Ben.

Ben Shapiro (0:01)

Hey, how's it going, dude?

Joe Rogan (0:02)

We're here. We did it.

Ben Shapiro (0:04)

We did? We're both alive.

Joe Rogan (0:05)

First of all, congratulations on your thinness.

Ben Shapiro (0:07)

Oh, thank you.

Joe Rogan (0:08)

You look slender and healthy, you look good.

Ben Shapiro (0:09)

Oh, thank you, I appreciate it. Turns out, running away from my children for four months straight will do that to you. I literally took up running just to get away from my children. Really?

Joe Rogan (0:17)

Just go outside, just for some mind space?

Ben Shapiro (0:20)

It's LA, man, you can't get outside unless you're actively exercising or they come and arrest you. Oh, I could have looted a footlocker, right? Then that would have been okay.

Joe Rogan (0:27)

Do you run with the mask on?

Ben Shapiro (0:28)

No.

Joe Rogan (0:28)

Does anybody yell at you? No.

Ben Shapiro (0:31)

No?

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Do you go to a track? Like, what do you do?

Ben Shapiro (0:32)

No, I literally just run around on the streets hoping that one day I will be hunted down by the rioters. So I don't have to go deal with my children screaming at me. But yeah, that's the goal.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Did you try to get healthier when COVID hit? Like, were you worried?

Ben Shapiro (0:47)

A little bit, it really wasn't about COVID. It was just, I was eating out too much. And when I was relegated to home, it was like I had to learn how to use the barbecue, which I had never learned how to use a barbecue actually.

And then it turned out it was actually not that hard. So I don't know what I was doing for years.

Joe Rogan (1:02)

I gotta give you some elk meat. Are you barbecuing right now?

You still doing it? All right, I'll give you some elk sausages.

Ben Shapiro (1:08)

I have to do kosher, right?

Joe Rogan (1:09)

Oh, that's not kosher at all.

Ben Shapiro (1:10)

Well, I'll have to go get the elk and I'll have to actually like kill it myself.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Is that what you'd have to do? You'd have to get the elk and then you'd have to slice its throat or something like that?

What's the logic behind that?

Ben Shapiro (1:21)

So, I mean, not to get too fast into the biblical stuff, but the original logic was that you were supposed to kill the animal in the most humane way was the idea. Now, do I know if it's the most humane way now? I have no idea.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

It's most certainly not, Ben.

Ben Shapiro (1:34)

Okay, well.

Joe Rogan (1:35)

Cause you have to slice its throat.

Ben Shapiro (1:36)

Take it up with the rabbi's, man. I don't know, I don't know.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

I get it how back in the day, a very sharp knife going through the throat would have been the most humane way cause it's almost painless. And then the blood just sort of pours out and that's a wrap.

Ben Shapiro (1:50)

Right, you don't want the blood anyway cause you're not allowed to eat blood in Judaism, so.

Oh really? Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

So what do you do when you have a medium rare steak?

Ben Shapiro (1:57)

I mean, you salt the steak really heavily. This is why kosher meat's pretty salty.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

So if you go to a steak house, are you allowed to go to a steak house?

Ben Shapiro (2:04)

Kosher steak house, there are kosher steak houses.

Joe Rogan (2:05)

God, you're so deep in that world.

Ben Shapiro (2:07)

I know, man.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

But you're a logical, intelligent guy. Does every now and then-

Ben Shapiro (2:11)

I like how you juxtapose those.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

But does every now and then it fuck with your head? You're like, what is this?

Ben Shapiro (2:16)

I mean, of course. And then when I-

I don't know there's a religious person alive, I mean, who doesn't eventually go like, okay, it's a little weird, but all right. You gotta embrace the system.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

But you feel like for tradition and for just the whole Jewish culture, it's worth doing.

Ben Shapiro (2:32)

Yeah, exactly. I mean, you live the lifestyle. And I feel like it ain't that big a sacrifice to eat at particular restaurants. The restaurants are still good. They've still got good kosher restaurants.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

One thing that we're seeing with society and culture in general, and one thing that sort of does support the idea of maintaining these sort of rigid disciplines is that when things start to slide just a little, you lose these little incremental steps.