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#1497 - Joe Schilling

The Joe Rogan Experience

June 25, 2020

Joe Schilling is an American Muay Thai kickboxer and MMA fighter who competes in the super middleweight and light heavyweight and the Middleweight division of Bellator MMA.

Speakers Joe Rogan, Joe Schilling, Jamie

TopicsComedy

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Stitch them up. What's up, brother?

Joe Schilling (0:04)

How you doing, Joe?

Joe Rogan (0:05)

We're rolling.

Joe Schilling (0:06)

Rolling.

Joe Rogan (0:07)

So, I've been talking about you a lot lately.

Joe Schilling (0:09)

I appreciate that.

Joe Rogan (0:10)

You know I love you.

Joe Schilling (0:11)

I love you too.

Joe Rogan (0:12)

But it's also, your Instagram page has become a highlight of police brutality. And I know you take a lot of shit for it, but I think it's very important, and we were just talking about this. I think it's important not just for the people, but I think it's important for the police. I think it's important for police reform. I think they need to see.

This is what happens when you have shitty people doing this very fucking difficult job, and you got a lot of them.

SPEAKER_3 (0:39)

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Joe Schilling (0:40)

I think, my thing was it just became, everybody just always says, well, it's only a few bad apples, a few bad apples, a few bad apples. And I'm like, well, I can just show you there's a lot of these bad apples, you know what I mean? And I think that, like you said, it's better for future police, but if they're so scared to do their job, it's because everyone hates them, because everybody hates them, because they're constantly being dickheads to everybody, that makes it worse for the good cops, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan (1:06)

I do know what you mean. I was talking about this the other day with Coleon Noir, and we were saying that it's a job that is almost impossible to do for the average person. You need to be like a fucking Navy SEAL. You need to be like a person who's gone through some rigorous training, and a person who really understands how to diffuse situations. You need to be a person who knows how to keep your shit together, a person who knows how to respect people.

They need a lot more training. Jaco Willink was talking about that. He said, I think they should have 20% training. He goes, they train for like a couple of weeks.

Joe Schilling (1:40)

It's like nine weeks or something.

Joe Rogan (1:41)

Yeah, and then it's over, and then they're out there in the field. He goes, I think 20% of their time should be spent training.

Joe Schilling (1:46)

I don't mean to interrupt you, but maybe it's even worse than that, is it's not nine weeks and then the field. In LA County, you want to be a sheriff, it's nine weeks or however long, and if it's 10 weeks, I'm sorry, or 12 weeks, it's not that many weeks.

Right out of the academy, you go straight to two years in the jail. They're like, oh, all the human interaction you've had before you went to the academy, now we're gonna surround you by the worst examples of everybody for two years, and then you're gonna go on the streets and try to be normal.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

You go to jails for two years?

Joe Schilling (2:15)

Two year minimum.

Joe Rogan (2:16)

What?

Joe Schilling (2:16)

All sheriffs.

Joe Rogan (2:18)

That's probably because they just need people in the jails, right?

Joe Schilling (2:20)

Well, that goes back to what, I mean, I feel like they, we got a lot of way to go.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

There's a lot of shit going on there. There's a lot of shit going on there. First of all, there's private prisons. Then there's drug laws. Those are the two big ones. You wanna find out why the fucking prisons are filled up with people.

Those are two big ones right there. How many people are in jail for shit they should never be in jail for? Decisions that other people make with their own body that doesn't harm anybody other than themselves.

You could buy alcohol, but you can't buy coke. You can't buy weed. You can't buy, non-violent drug offenses is a giant percentage of the population.

Joe Schilling (2:55)

And then you said like they go to jail for that because they made a mistake.

But then they don't just get out of jail and they're free. They put you on probation and they put these extended five years probation, anything's a probation violation. And then they just keep you back into that same system, back into the same system, back to the same system. Father's Day, I was out back. I did like a poster out my kids and I'm really proud of my kids. So I did a post on Father's Day and then I was like, man, it's Father's Day. I'm gonna chill, smoke a joint, fucking crack a beer. It's like 10 o'clock in the morning. I can do that on Father's Day, you know? And I'm sitting there, it's moral of joy. And I'm like, I'm gonna do a post for Ignite. Shout out to Ignite.

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