#1436 - Adam Curry

Adam Curry (0:00)

had a ive edition, we spark one up on New Year's Eve, we filled up that hole.

Joe Rogan (0:04)

Oh, the actual real rolling paper that came with Big Bamboo?

Adam Curry (0:08)

That was the first time I really went out.

Joe Rogan (0:10)

We're live right now, so we'll just let everybody know we're talking about Cheech and Chong's album, Big Bamboo, that actually came with a real rolling paper.

Adam Curry (0:16)

Yeah, huge, just across the, I think it was across the double album.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Dude, you have a flip phone.

Adam Curry (0:21)

I do, I do, I do.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

You stepped out.

Adam Curry (0:24)

OTG, brother.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

You figured it out.

Adam Curry (0:27)

Create less data, that's my motto.

Joe Rogan (0:30)

Is that what it is?

Adam Curry (0:31)

Yeah, well, two things. One, your phone is always fucking with you.

It's notifying and I just didn't want to be a part of that anymore. I wanted to be a little more connected to life outside.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

You still call people.

Adam Curry (0:46)

Well, so this is actually a new flip phone from T-Mobile, Alcatel, and it has Kai OS, which is so it's not really a trackable OS, although Google put an investment into it. Oh, I'm very serious about it, yeah. Oh yeah, and so all the apps are all, they're all tracking you, they're all doing all kinds of shit.

But initially, really just to not be a slave to this thing.

Joe Rogan (1:10)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (1:11)

And the further I got into it, the more I liked it. And you don't really need it. Now, I have a device with me that's off. This works as a hotspot, so I can turn it into a hotspot if I really, really, really needed to do something. But what do you need? Text, phone call, and if there's something that I really need to look up, you just turn around and say, hey, can someone Google this for me?

There's always someone around.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

Are you texting on that thing?

Adam Curry (1:34)

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:35)

Do you T9? Is that what you're doing?

Adam Curry (1:36)

They have a, it's like a T9. It's a little bit better. It's their version of predictive texting. Yeah.

I really am serious about it.

Joe Rogan (1:45)

Well, you should be.

Adam Curry (1:46)

Yeah, everyone should be. I mean, we have all this cool shit, all this great technology, but the business model fucked us all. I mean, six years ago, I had the first Amazon Echo. I'm like, this is groundbreaking.

Dvorak, my co-host, he was laughing at me. He's like, why would you bring a spy device into your house? I said, look, I'm just testing this out. If it had an Apple logo on it, everyone would be losing their shit right now, but it didn't.

And I loved it. Hooked it up to the lights and all that stuff going. And then as I started to understand what it was really doing and what it's really communicating, all these things, right down to like your Roku remote, you pick that up, it's communicating with Homebase. So all this stuff, so I got rid of all of it. Just got rid of it.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

Well, I was listening to one of Sam Harris' podcasts and he was talking with someone that said, and they had a really good great quote that we didn't realize that our data was something valuable.

Adam Curry (2:40)

Right.

Joe Rogan (2:40)

We didn't realize it was a commodity and it was being sold, not just a commodity that's kind of value, but insanely valuable.

Adam Curry (2:46)

Extremely, yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

That's where Facebook makes all their money. That's where Google makes all their money.

Adam Curry (2:51)

Everybody.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Yeah.

Adam Curry (2:52)

Everybody.

Joe Rogan (2:52)

They make it from your data, and you never really understood what you were doing when you signed off to give that data away. When you signed the terms of agreements and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, and nobody reads through that shit.

Adam Curry (3:04)

You know what's even more egregious is, there's a company called Plaid, P-L-A-I-D, and just sold the Visa for, I think, four or five billion dollars.

And it's the financial back end or a bridge between all these apps that can do stuff with your bank account and your bank account. So if you have an app like Venmo or, ah shit, name any payment app.

Joe Rogan (3:31)

Cash app.

Adam Curry (3:31)