#1423 - Andrew Doyle
The Joe Rogan Experience
February 5, 2020
Andrew Doyle is a British comedian, playwright, journalist, political satirist and is creator of the fictitious character Titania McGrath.
Speakers Joe Rogan, Andrew Doyle
TopicsComedy
Joe Rogan (0:00)
Three, two, one. This is your unveiling.
Because now people know.
Andrew Doyle (0:05)
That people know, yep, that's it.
Joe Rogan (0:07)
First of all, Titiana.
Andrew Doyle (0:09)
So this is, I should have chosen her an easier name. No one can get it, it's Titania.
Joe Rogan (0:13)
Titania.
Andrew Doyle (0:14)
Because she's named after the Queen of the Fairies in Midsummer Night's Dream.
Joe Rogan (0:17)
Tell everybody your real name.
Andrew Doyle (0:18)
My real name's Andrew Doyle.
Joe Rogan (0:20)
Do you have an issue with people now knowing that Tatiana or Titania, Titania?
Andrew Doyle (0:27)
Yeah, she totally eclipsed me.
I don't have, I'm basically not alive anymore. It's all about her. You know?
Joe Rogan (0:34)
Well, I can't remember how I found out about you on Twitter, but just laughing really hard at something that you wrote that was so close. You do such a good job of like blurring the line between outrageously woke and satire.
Andrew Doyle (0:50)
Yeah, it's that thing of trying to-
Joe Rogan (0:51)
There you are. Who's the girl?
Andrew Doyle (0:54)
Trying to, oh there, okay. Yeah, so the girl is a composite of four different women.
Joe Rogan (0:58)
Well, that's good.
Andrew Doyle (0:58)
And I put together because I was worried about, I don't want to get sued or anything like that.
Joe Rogan (1:02)
So it's not a real human.
Andrew Doyle (1:03)
But you know-
Joe Rogan (1:03)
Radical intersectionalist poet. Selfless and brave, by my book.
Activist healer.
Andrew Doyle (1:11)
But also I love that she's deadpan because it means that she sort of, look, every time I post something, it's like there's this po-faced woman staring at you, daring you.
Joe Rogan (1:17)
Yes.
Andrew Doyle (1:18)
Don't you dare sort of challenge me. She could be mean in a way that I'm not.
So that's kind of funny you end up inhabiting this character who just isn't like you.
And I do end up thinking like her. And I've even dreamt as her. And that sounds like a lie, but I have. So that's pretty scary. She'll have to go eventually, because I can't deal with that kind of, there's a psychosis, isn't it?
Joe Rogan (1:41)
Well, she's so big now. You have 420,000 followers.
Andrew Doyle (1:45)
It's weird, because it happened really quickly. I guess it's because there's a whole cohort of people out there who are just sick of this stuff.
Well, it's partly that, but also partly because people still fall for her all the time. People constantly think it's real.
Joe Rogan (1:59)
Oh, all the time. When I retweet you, one of my favorite things to do is read people getting upset at you. They're like, that is ridiculous. You think that? That's why Trump was winning.
Andrew Doyle (2:12)
Never ceases to amaze me how angry people get on Twitter with even legitimate causes. But I watch that and I think it's fun because I can satirize the left and the more liberal side of things through her.
But then I can argue with the right-wing Trump supporters and stuff and I can mock them as well. So you get to have a go at the extremes.
Joe Rogan (2:32)
Yeah.
Andrew Doyle (2:34)
I'm so shocked that people still think she's real though. Like even after all this time.
Joe Rogan (2:38)
Oh, it's not shocking. You're close enough. There's plenty of people, and I'll point you to a few of them that I follow. I follow some people where I just bookmark them so they don't know that I follow them.
And just some of them are so goddamn fucking crazy.
Andrew Doyle (2:53)
And yeah, I keep getting told this is like a straw man. These people don't really exist.
Oh, they exist. They do. I even once did a, do you remember there was a tweet by, is it Rosanna Arquette who's really, really woke? Rosanna Arquette, the actor.
Joe Rogan (3:05)
I think so.
Andrew Doyle (3:05)
So she did a tweet about how ashamed she was of being white.
And then that was her. I think it was her. And then I just cut and paste that tweet and put it out as Titania.
Joe Rogan (3:13)
Is it Patricia Arquette?
Andrew Doyle (3:13)
Might have been. It's one of the Arquettes. Yeah. But I did the same tweet. I literally cut and paste it as Titania because I thought like, and some people got it that I had just taken this other viral tweet. And some people got the point I was making.
But yeah, it's close to, some of them are nuts.
Joe Rogan (3:31)
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