#1422 - Lex Fridman

Joe Rogan (0:04)

Lex, handsome as ever.

Lex Fridman (0:05)

Thank you.

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Well dressed, always feel like a slobbing um around you. Do you dress like that in real life, or only when you do podcasts?

Lex Fridman (0:11)

Yeah, so I have two outfits, this and black shirt and jeans.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Slick outfit. There's nothing more classic than a dark suit with a white shirt and a black tie. Is that a black tie or is it a dark blue?

Lex Fridman (0:25)

Black tie.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

Black tie, black suit, black tie.

Lex Fridman (0:27)

It's armor. It makes me feel like it focuses on the mind.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Like a professional.

Lex Fridman (0:32)

Yeah, like I'm taking this seriously.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

Yes, yes, yes.

Like you're fucking for real, man. You got notes and shit?

Lex Fridman (0:39)

Yeah, I got notes and shit, but given the suit, I like to get dirty. I like to work in a car or whatever.

I don't want to, I love to get into fighting this. This isn't like me trying to protect myself from the messiness of the real world.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

Oh, I understand.

Lex Fridman (0:58)

This is like armor.

Joe Rogan (0:58)

It just looks good. It just makes you feel like you're a professional.

Is it flexible? Like, you know, they make clothes that are flexed. Yeah, you can move in it?

Lex Fridman (1:07)

I can move in it.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

Oh, that's nice.

Lex Fridman (1:08)

And I can, I mean, you showed me how you can choke me last time with the tie.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Did you get a breakaway tie?

Lex Fridman (1:15)

No, I didn't. But, you know, I kind of let you have that one, because I think I can defend it pretty well.

Joe Rogan (1:21)

Well, you're probably very good at defending chokes, yeah.

Lex Fridman (1:24)

No, no, with the tie. I don't have a system yet. I'll have to talk to John Donoher to develop a tie.

Joe Rogan (1:29)

All you have to do, man, is just take the back of the tie, cut it, put a little piece of velcro on each end. You got the same tie.

Lex Fridman (1:37)

That's not, no, but I think you going under the tie to try to start the choke, actually, I mean, you're making yourself vulnerable. Like maybe you tend to arm bar or something like that. Like, I think there's a system.

Joe Rogan (1:49)

Don't be silly.

Don't be silly. Well, listen, if someone grabs ahold of your collar, that's the same thing. Like, Ezekiel chokes are deadly, right?

Lex Fridman (1:57)

Yeah, but it's not over. Yeah, if you sink it in, it's over.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

But it's so, collars are a real problem, right? In jujitsu.

Lex Fridman (2:06)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:06)

They're a real problem. If someone gets deep on your collar.

Lex Fridman (2:09)

Like, even on this, with a suit, right?

Joe Rogan (2:11)

Someone starts doing this, man. You're fucked.

Not good. Not good. Collars are not good.

Lex Fridman (2:17)

If you go deep, if you get in deep.

Joe Rogan (2:18)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, the problem with that is it's a handle. It's worse than a collar, because I'll get underneath that knot and I'll grab ahold of that pitch, and then it's all just twisting.

Lex Fridman (2:28)

Yeah, but it's, you have to...

Joe Rogan (2:31)

You're right. I would have to get it. I'd have to get it.

Lex Fridman (2:34)

And you also kind of have to hold on to this part, because it can loosen naturally, unless you're really good at, like, because it loosens.

Joe Rogan (2:41)

Does it?

Lex Fridman (2:41)

Yeah, it loosens naturally. This is a system to this. I think, yeah, you haven't thought through this, so.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

You don't think I have? Dude, I try to choke people with ties on.

Just friends, yeah, I'm like, let me grab ahold that tie real quick. I'm like, what happens if I do this?

Lex Fridman (2:55)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:56)

No, no, not jujitsu people.

Lex Fridman (2:57)

And also, it's probably a joke. If I was fighting for my life, I think it'd be different.

Joe Rogan (3:01)

Well, sure, you're a tough guy. You are actually trained martial artist. I mean, I'm not saying it would be easy to grab your tie and choke you to death. What I'm saying is it's one more area of vulnerability that doesn't need to exist.

Lex Fridman (3:12)

Yeah, but see, I'm disagreeing with you in saying, like, if I was gonna fight to the death, I would wear the suit.