#140 - How Much Do VCs Make?, A Booming Startup Replacing Fridges, and A Board Game Making $5m A Month

**Shaan Puri** (0:21)
Yeah. We're live, Sam, it's almost Christmas.
Are you a big gifter?

**Sam Parr** (0:27)
I do everything last minute, as expected, and I overspend on my close family. So, kinda.
Are you?

**Shaan Puri** (0:40)
I'm a gifter, I'm also a last minute, in fact, usually so last minute that they get a photo of something that's to come.
And I'm famous in my family for like, oh, remember that time I got a photo from Shaan of a stroller, but the stroller never came? Or like, I got this photo of a bag that I never got. I'm the famous kind of like photo only gifter.

**Sam Parr** (1:01)
It's just like, it's not, well, you know, your love language?
You know what I'm talking about? It's like touch, service.

**Shaan Puri** (1:09)
Wings of affirmation, yeah.

**Sam Parr** (1:12)
Yeah, gifting. And gifting is not mine. So I just like forget that a lot of people really care about it. I'm like, ugh.
When I actually get gifts, it's like I'm doing Christmas in Austin. My mother sent me a book and it was a lovely book and I like it. And then someone else, but someone else sent me something else. I'm like, ugh, more packages. I don't wanna get rid of all this cardboard.
It's like stressful more than it is good.

**Shaan Puri** (1:34)
That's good. And one of my goals this year was to become a good person like Ramon, who's our good friend, who is the best guy now, I would say.

**Sam Parr** (1:42)
He's like the best gift giver too. That's his thing.

**Shaan Puri** (1:44)
And he's the best gift giver and super thoughtful. So I was like, I'm gonna out gift Ramon this year. And so I have created a system where I'm giving gifts at scale. I'm gifting to 30, 40 people who I think are amazing and I care about, even if we don't talk all the time or whatever. I've made a list of the 30, 40 people who I think are awesome and I wanna invest in. I want to give them gifts. I just been too busy, lazy, not thoughtful to do it.
And then you gave me the great idea for the perfect gift for this month. So I sent out a high quality pair of Christmas socks from Stance to everybody on that list.
And Stance was like, oh, this is great, cool. We'll take care, just upload a CSV of their addresses and we'll send it all out and we'll get you a bunch of credits and all this stuff. And I was like, this is amazing. This is how I like this place to be.

**Sam Parr** (2:34)
That's awesome. You emailed them?

**Shaan Puri** (2:36)
So Ben actually took care of this whole thing for me. So I was like, I told Ben, here's what I'm trying to do. He's like, I got you. Just get the addresses for me.
I put all the address in a spreadsheet. He's like, all right, I talked to Stance and they said they're going to do this. And I was like, Ben, I love you. I love Stance. I love that this is actually happening now.
And so what I'm going to try to do is every month, I'm going to try to send them a little something. Maybe it's just socks that I thought were cool. Or a little, just something small that I think is cool. And Ramon had this thing he said once, which was like, from now on, I buy two. I buy anything I like, I buy two. I buy one for me, I buy one for you. And I was like, he wouldn't even say this to me, but I heard it. And I was like, wow, that is like the ultimate Ramon friend.
Philosophy, because he means it. He's not like a bullshitter and he's not schmoozing anybody. He's just does it because he does it.

**Sam Parr** (3:20)
He's bought me.
So Ramon is our mutual friend. When he was the first or top five or one of the first episodes, Sean did, sold the number two, I think, soap hub, soap opera website for 10 million bucks almost. He's given me a $500 helicopter ride. Like me and Sarah went on a helicopter ride. He's given me an Apple watch. He's given me a sauna for my wedding.

**Shaan Puri** (3:43)
He's amazing.

**Sam Parr** (3:44)
What else did he give me?

**Shaan Puri** (3:46)
I was in Las Vegas and I just told him, hey, I'm in Las Vegas. And he goes, oh, that's great. Have a good time, blah, blah, blah.
The next day, he's like, hey, at 6 p.m. today, you need to go to T-Mobile Arena, you and your friends. And he hooked us up with like a VIP pass to the UFC event. Like we got to meet some UFC, he arranged for UFC fighters to come find us.