#1396 - Michelle Wolf

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Mm, yes! How many lame wolf jokes have you had to endure in real life?

Michelle Wolf (0:08)

You know what, I like them.

Joe Rogan (0:09)

Do you?

Michelle Wolf (0:10)

Yeah, bring them on. Joe List constantly tries to get the nickname Wolf of Wall Street started.

Every time I see him, he's like, Wolf of Wall Street, it's going to catch on. He says it to no one, I hope it's going to catch on, it's going to catch on.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

You were saying that you like the tumeric coffee, but you don't like to admit that you like that stuff?

Michelle Wolf (0:30)

Yeah, I like recently got into like all this, like, kind of like, you know, there's like new agey health stuff and crystals.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

You got into crystals?

Michelle Wolf (0:41)

I mean, a little bit. I'm on the fringe of the crystal, you know, I might be wearing a little rose quartz.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

What do you like? What's the thought behind being into crystals?

Michelle Wolf (0:51)

I honestly think it's a lot of it's like just in your thirties at some point.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

Okay.

Michelle Wolf (0:56)

As a woman, I think you get into crystals.

Joe Rogan (0:57)

Yeah, if you don't get a kid or a dog.

Michelle Wolf (0:59)

Yeah, you kind of just like, you're just like, you know what, maybe I can bring some energy from somewhere.

Joe Rogan (1:05)

It's like, like, why not start burning sage?

Michelle Wolf (1:10)

I don't think it'll last forever. I just think I'm in a little bit of a a little bit of a crystal phase, a spiritual phase.

Kind of. Yeah, I was like thinking about, oh my god, this is so embarrassing. Why am I starting so embarrassing? I was thinking about maybe looking up, like, shamans in New York, you know, to be like, maybe I can get like, just explore the spiritual universe a little bit. I think it means I'm lonely.

Joe Rogan (1:34)

It probably means you're lonely, but like shamans, like, do you want to do drugs?

Michelle Wolf (1:40)

Oh, I mean, I'd be, I'd love to do ayahuasca.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

Yeah. So that's if they're not going to be listed, you're going to have to find some, you can't just like Google them. Some some narc can just kind of Google Google ayahuasca.

You get to get away with it legally right now in Oakland, if you go to Oakland.

Michelle Wolf (1:57)

Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

Yeah, Oakland. They fucking stepped up. They decriminalized everything. Yeah, mushrooms. Everything. Everything. They're like, fuck it. Do it.

Which is what we need.

Slowly, but surely, that's going to be the whole country.

Michelle Wolf (2:09)

I mushrooms are I love mushrooms.

Joe Rogan (2:12)

Want to do some right now?

Michelle Wolf (2:13)

And I have too many other things to do today.

I recently did them and I all of a sudden, I didn't realize this happened on mushrooms. I got so giggly.

Joe Rogan (2:23)

Oh, yeah. If you take the right amount, you get super giggly.

Michelle Wolf (2:26)

Just giggled for hours. I was like, oh, this is the best. I'm sure I was annoying to everyone around me, which is also pretty normal. But I'm giggling nonstop at anything.

Joe Rogan (2:39)

Well, a lot of people are microdosing now, and what they're doing is they're taking a level of... They're taking enough psilocybin so that you don't quite feel it.

It's like knocking on the door or feeling it, like almost there. But they report this amazing alleviation of anxiety. They feel super creative and really friendly and all these like powerful positive vibes, but they're basically sober.

Michelle Wolf (3:04)

Yeah, I don't know. Does it affect you long...

If you actually wanted to take...

Joe Rogan (3:09)

Oh, to blast off?

Michelle Wolf (3:10)

Yeah, would you have to take an extraordinary amount?

Joe Rogan (3:13)

You can always blast off.

You're going to be able to blast off every single time. I couldn't imagine that somehow or another it would get in the way. The feeling that happens when you take a large dose where it's like you just feel the tingling and you get fucking scared, like that shit's coming.

Michelle Wolf (3:28)

I always have to put my hand here for hours, just like on my heart.

Joe Rogan (3:34)

At the beginning of the Gulf War, like right after 9-11, Stan Hope and I got fucked up on mushrooms like the day of the war. And we were watching TV, and they were like war coverage.