1393: Andrew Herr | Why Travel Leaves You Wrecked (and How to Fix It)

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It turns out that it's not just because you're sitting for a long time. Many Americans sit on their couch for eight hours at a time, and they have done these studies and it's the pressure change. They had people sit in a non-pressurized environment, and then they took them into an environment that mimicked a plane, and the dramatically higher risk of activation of blood clotting if you're in this pressurized, lower pressure environment. There is one thing you can do, and that's primarily on long-haul flights, and that's fly on a 787

Along with A350s, these are the only two major commercial jets that have better cabin pressure. Because of their composite structure, they pressurize the plane to about 6,000 feet relative altitude, whereas almost every other commercial jet is pressurized to 8,000 feet relative. So that means you have a lot more cabin pressure, which means less flight inflammation, as well as more humidity and other things, so you're not losing as much water, you're not as dehydrated. So flying on a 787 or an A350 can help you feel better from the flight stress and the inflammation.

Jordan Harbinger (2:38)

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's most fascinating people. Our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker through long-form conversations with a variety of amazing folks, from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers and performers. Even the occasional neuroscientist, war correspondent or extreme athlete. And if you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show, I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of some of our favorite episodes on topics like persuasion and negotiation, psychology and geopolitics, disinformation, China, North Korea, crime and cults and more. It will help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show. Just visit jordanharbinger.com/start or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Today on the show, you ever bored a plane thinking you'll get eight hours of work done and then you spend the flight barely conscious watching a movie you won't remember? Apparently your ambition isn't the only thing losing cabin pressure. Today Andrew Herr joins us to unpack why flying can leave you feeling wrecked and why he thinks there's more going on than just a time zone change. We'll explore how the timing of light, food and sleep can help sabotage your adjustment and we'll get into surviving the destination itself, sleeping in a hotel room that smells like a perfume counter exploded and enjoying local food without spending your vacation reviewing the bathroom tile. A few small changes could make your next trip considerably less miserable. Here we go with Andrew Herr.

It's good to have you on the show because I've talked about FlyKitt on the show a million times and people always email me like, does it really work? Does it really work? And I'm thinking like, just try it. It works for me, but it doesn't mean it's going to work for everybody, especially if they don't actually follow it, which is Jen's problem. I'm just going to take the supplements most of the time and then never do any of the sleep stuff. And I'm like, I don't think that's how this works.