1387 I Smuggled Drugs. The Mob Wanted Me Dead. God Brought Me Home.

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**Richard Syrett** (0:05)
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**William Gibby Gibson** (2:30)
I was actually in a cell with nine Jamaicans. We were in a concrete cell that was seven feet by nine feet, three wooden benches, and most of the guys slept on the concrete floor, and three of the guys, the most dangerous guys in the prison, were in the cell with me.
But because I had money, I was paid off the guards to buy chicken dinners and beer for us. And then chicken dinner for my, these guys who were the most dangerous guys protected me. I had my own wooden bench. Every one night, one of the guys, like floor callers, we called him. He yells out, how come the white boy get his own bench? Tarep, his nickname was Tarep, Tarep and Duckwok. Tarep got up and kicked him savagely several times and said, anyone else got an answer to say?

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Richard Syrett's Strange Planet following the truth wherever it leads, exposing evil and corruption and the secret machinations of powerful elites, revealing the highest strangeness beneath the surface of our supposed reality, coming to you from the great white north and his studio beneath the stairs. Here's Richard.

**Richard Syrett** (3:39)
What if one wrong turn at a university party sent you hurtling into the heart of one of the most violent criminal underworlds of the Cold War? My guest, William Gibby Gibson, says that's exactly what happened. As a young Canadian university student, he found himself smuggling marijuana between Jamaica and Montreal, rubbing shoulders with mobsters, contract killers, political gang leaders and figures he believes were connected to covert intelligence operations. He survived prison in Jamaica, assassination attempts, and a world where most of the people around him ended up dead or behind bars. More than 50 years later, Gibson has written Escape from Jamaica, a remarkable true story of crime, survival, miracles and redemption that raises unsettling questions about the hidden forces operating behind the international drug trade and the extraordinary faith he says ultimately saved his life.