1386 The Clinton-Epstein Money Machine

**SPEAKER_1** (0:01)
Evening, buyer's remorse.

**Richard Syrett** (0:03)
Buy a new car? I'll be moving in.
Let's get started.

**Ronald Chapman II** (0:07)
Uh, sorry, I think there's been a mistake.

**Richard Syrett** (0:09)
I bought it from Carvana.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:10)
You what?

**Ronald Chapman II** (0:11)
Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:14)
So there's no…

**SPEAKER_4** (0:15)
No, no buyer's remorse.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:17)
More like buyer's rejoice? I guess I'll let myself out.

**Ronald Chapman II** (0:22)
Congratulations.

**SPEAKER_1** (0:23)
I mean it.

**SPEAKER_4** (0:24)
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**Ronald Chapman II** (1:28)
He was instrumentally involved in the Clinton Global Initiative. You start to see a little bit of smoke, and I think you can imagine that there's probably some fire. What likely happened in this scenario is that Jeffrey Epstein goes to the powerful people who connect him to Bill Clinton. His connection to Bill Clinton alone is enough for Jeffrey Epstein to say, You take me down, I was in your White House, I was at your meetings, I was on your jet. I should not be a target because you look bad if I look bad. That's how Jeffrey Epstein played his game.

**SPEAKER_1** (2:02)
Richard Syrett's Strange Planet, following the truth wherever it leads, exposing evil and corruption and the secret machinations of powerful elites.
Revealing the high strangeness beneath the surface of supposed reality coming to you from the great white north and his studio beneath the stairs. Here's Richard.

**Richard Syrett** (2:28)
Jeffrey Epstein has been investigated for most every conceivable angle. On this program alone, we've explored the island, the flight logs, the black book, intelligence connections, blackmail, his alleged genetic ambitions, and claims by survivor Juliette Bryant that Epstein may have served as a front man for covert human experimentation. And of course, whether or not he's dead. After years of headlines, documentaries, lawsuits, and congressional investigations, you'd think there couldn't possibly be another chapter left to uncover.
But one of the biggest unanswered question isn't who Jeffrey Epstein knew. It's where the money went. My guest tonight believes the public has been fixated on the scandal while overlooking what he says may be the real story. A sophisticated web of political influence, international philanthropy, and financial relationships connected to the Clinton orbit that has never been fully examined. That's an extraordinary claim. Coming from just anyone, it would be easy to dismiss. But Ronald Chapman II isn't the conspiracy theorist or Internet sleuth. He's a former federal prosecutor, one of America's most accomplished federal criminal defense attorneys, a US. Marine Corps veteran, and a lawyer whose career has been spent untangling complex financial crimes and federal investigations. He's the host of the popular YouTube channel, Off Air, and also the author of Fight the Feds, Unraveling Federal Criminal Investigations, and Truth and Persuasion in the Digital Revolution. Tonight, Ron Chapman lays out the evidence behind his contention that investigators have been asking the wrong questions all along.
Ron, welcome to Strange Planet. How are you?

**Ronald Chapman II** (4:13)
I'm doing wonderful, especially after that intro.
I think you summarized it quite well, a lot of the information we're going to get into. This will be one of the first times I think an audience gets to hear about the real Jeffrey Epstein story.

**Richard Syrett** (4:27)
So for me, as I mentioned, for nearly 20 years, Epstein has been synonymous with one thing, sex trafficking. You're telling us that's only part of the story. What's the story almost everyone has missed?