1372 I Was Programmed: An MKULTRA Survivor Speaks Out

**Richard Syrett** (0:00)
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**SPEAKER_2** (1:01)
Hey sweetie, your mother showed me this Carvana thing for selling the car.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:05)
I'm going to give it a try.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:06)
Wish me luck. Me again.

**Juliette Engel** (1:08)
I put in the license plate.

**SPEAKER_3** (1:09)
It gave me an offer. Unbelievable.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:12)
Okay, I accepted the offer. They're picking it up Tuesday from the driveway.

**Richard Syrett** (1:16)
I haven't even left my chair.

**Juliette Engel** (1:18)
It's done. The car is gone.

**SPEAKER_2** (1:19)
I'm holding a check.

**Juliette Engel** (1:21)
Anyway, Carvana. Give it a whirl.

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**Juliette Engel** (2:05)
HILTER SKILTER.
That's what they called the program in the 1960s. They planned to have a lot of Charlie Mansons running around. They do, and it's like what you see with ANTIFA and the senseless rioting and the mass destruction. It's a bunch of programmed clones like Charlie Manson. When I knew him, he had short hair, no beard. He was a very good musician, and he was a very smart, technically savvy, and he was a house musician for all the developing musical talents that they were developing at Fort Point and Laurel Canyon and Monterey and Hollywood. We were traveling around between those groups, and he would haul the equipment, drive the van, very quiet, and that he would go off the rails like that. He always had a propensity for the drugs, and when I escaped when I was 17, I remember he was at Foster Island, which is a prison where they kept the drug-addicted people who weren't violent, and he would come out on daypasses and play with the band and then go back.

**SPEAKER_4** (3:16)
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Here's Richard.

**Richard Syrett** (3:43)
Hey, welcome to Strange Planet.
What if some of the darkest conspiracy theories of the last half century weren't theories at all? My guest tonight is Dr. Juliette Engel, a physician, entrepreneur and author of SPARKY, Surviving Sex Magick. She claims that as a child, she was swept into a shadowy world of mind control experimentation, ritual abuse, intelligence operations and psychological conditioning linked to the notorious MKUltra program. For decades, she says, those memories remain buried behind walls of disassociation until the birth of her daughter triggered a flood of terrifying recollections. Her story stretches from alleged CIA-linked programs and operation paperclip to satanic ritual abuse, occult figures, psychic experimentation, and even a bizarre encounter with Mark and Jeffrey Epstein, years before the financial advisor became one of the most infamous men in the world. Along the way, Engel claims to have uncovered connections between intelligence agencies, trafficking networks, music, consciousness manipulation and ancient star forts. She believes whole secrets hidden in plain sight. Now, whether you view her as a survivor, a whistleblower, or the keeper of one of the most extraordinary stories ever told, tonight's conversation ventures into territory where memory, trauma, conspiracy and the paranormal collide. Buckle up. This one goes deep into the darkness.