#1326 - Maynard James Keenan

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Young Jeremy, three, two, one. Ladies and gentlemen, my favorite farmer.

Maynard James Keenan (0:05)

Hey.

Joe Rogan (0:07)

You're my favorite farmer.

Maynard James Keenan (0:09)

I'm your favorite farmer.

Joe Rogan (0:10)

Yeah, I don't know that many of them, but you're number one.

Maynard James Keenan (0:12)

All right. I have a feeling that I don't quite farm the things you would rather use.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

What do you mean, like marijuana? Is that what you're trying to say?

Maynard James Keenan (0:21)

I wasn't gonna say it, but if you're gonna bring it up.

Joe Rogan (0:23)

I love wine, dude. You make fucking killer wine.

I'm a fan of your wine, so there you go. I have yet to try your food, but I want to. I didn't even know what an Osteria was until I talked to you.

Maynard James Keenan (0:34)

See?

Joe Rogan (0:35)

I didn't know.

Maynard James Keenan (0:35)

You use falcons to kill birds in your vineyard.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

That fucking thing you sent me is dope as fuck. So you have hired falcon, you hired a person and a couple that raises falcons to kill pigeons that are fucking with your food.

Maynard James Keenan (0:48)

What about starlings, sparrows? Anything. Anything that's messing with the grapes. They have these falcons come through, and the thing is, the collective birds in the area will have a memory of that. So if you have this hawk come through the vineyard and they just pulverize and there's feathers everywhere, that the community of birds kind of go, I don't think we should go this way. We should go that way.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

The cage with the feathers everywhere and then the pigeons on the other side is like, what?

Maynard James Keenan (1:18)

Yeah, that's a snack.

Joe Rogan (1:19)

I was in Venice recently last week. I'm still jet-lacked. I'm completely fucked. I haven't slept solid in five whole days.

My body does not know what's going on. I'll go to sleep completely exhausted and I'll wake up two hours later feeling like shit and I can't go back to sleep.

But when I was in Venice, there was a guy with a falcon. He had a falcon with him. And I was like, why does this guy have a falcon? And then the fucking pigeons come in like crazy. And when the guy's there with the falcon, the pigeon's just ghost. They're gone, they take off. So this guy stands there by the dock in Venice as the gondoliers pull up. And he's just got this falcon just sitting there so that the people can eat their food. The pigeons are insanely aggressive.

It's a ridiculous place.

Maynard James Keenan (2:02)

Until they see.

Joe Rogan (2:03)

They see that falcon.

Maynard James Keenan (2:05)

Done.

Joe Rogan (2:06)

Fuck this, yeah. You ever see videos online where the Mongols use, they use eagles, golden eagles, to hunt for wolves?

Maynard James Keenan (2:15)

Come on.

Joe Rogan (2:15)

Dude, it's wild.

An eagle which weighs like what, 15, 20 pounds? They fuck wolves up. They swoop, these wolves are just running for their life as death swarms down from the sky.

Maynard James Keenan (2:27)

We were gonna use the drone to get some footage of the falcons, and we're like, she's like, yeah, that's probably not a good idea. And like, yeah, cause the blades, he goes, no, no, no, your drone. Cause the falcons will go full force into your drone and destroy it.

So whatever you paid for it, try going to your insurance company and going, hey, my drone broke, what did you do? Near a falcon, they're going to go, yeah, good luck.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Well, paragon falcons, don't they go like 200 miles an hour to the fastest animal on the planet?

Maynard James Keenan (2:59)

Boom.

Joe Rogan (3:00)

Fuck, what? 200 miles an hour?

Maynard James Keenan (3:04)

Yeah, destroy your drone.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

I mean, that doesn't even make sense. What do you got? Oh, this is the Mongol. So look, these dudes run, the wolves are running away. The wolves know the fucking drill too, man. And this eagle just comes down and jacks the wolf.

And that's how they skin these wolves.

Look at that, two of them, boom.

Maynard James Keenan (3:20)

Good God.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Yeah, they are death from the sky. And these guys raise them.

Maynard James Keenan (3:26)

And then they wear the wolf hat.

Joe Rogan (3:27)

Yeah, they will the skin, the furs, everything, but. So, so that's it.

Maynard James Keenan (3:32)

What are we talking about?

Joe Rogan (3:33)