**Joe Rogan** (0:00)
Two, one, boom, and we're live. First of all, cheers, gentlemen. Let's have a little toast.
Relax. Bob, thank you very much for doing this. I really appreciate it. I understand that you've told this story many, many times. You've been grilled many, many times, and it's very stressful for you, so I really, really appreciate your time.
For people who don't know the story, there is a documentary, Jeremy Corbell. It has a documentary out right now. It's called Bob Lazar, Area 51 & UFOs.
**Jeremy Corbell** (0:30)
And Flying Saucers.
**Joe Rogan** (0:32)
And Flying Saucers.
**Jeremy Corbell** (0:33)
Bob Lazar, Area 51 & Flying Saucers.
**Joe Rogan** (0:36)
I first heard your story decades ago. I told you last night, we went out to dinner. I've seen pretty much every interview you've ever given. I've followed the story incredibly closely.
But for people who don't know the story, let's give them the bullet points. You used to work at Area 51, and Area 51, go ahead, you went like, huh?
**Bob Lazar** (1:00)
Well, you know, we want to be accurate. Area S-4.
**Joe Rogan** (1:02)
S-4.
**Bob Lazar** (1:03)
It's about 15 miles south of Area 51
**Joe Rogan** (1:08)
You worked in, what would you, how would you describe it?
**Bob Lazar** (1:13)
I guess within the Area 51 compound, you can call that a subset of Area 51
**Joe Rogan** (1:20)
And you got that job, before that you were working?
**Bob Lazar** (1:23)
Before that, I had worked at Los Alamos National Labs in New Mexico.
**Joe Rogan** (1:27)
And you were involved in what kind of work?
**Bob Lazar** (1:30)
Nuclear weapon development, physics, I mean, that's, they do everything there.
**Joe Rogan** (1:35)
So how do they approach you to say, hey, Bob, why don't you come on out to the Nevada desert?
**Bob Lazar** (1:42)
Well, the way this went down was, at that time, it was 1982, I had put a jet engine in my Honda. And Los Alamos put it on the front page of the paper, said, you know, Los Alamos man, physicist at the lab, you know, built this 200 mile an hour, you know, Honda jet car that I drove to work every day. So I was known in Los Alamos, the guy with the weird car, and you know, you could hear it from, you know, a mile away. Anyway, the day that came out on the front page of the paper was the day Edward Teller, the father of the hydrogen bomb, was giving a lecture down there at the lab. And we didn't have much going on that day in our group, and I asked if I could go down there.
And I went down there early, and Ed Teller was outside leaning on a brick wall there and reading the front page of the paper. Now this is a guy out of history, so I introduced myself, hey, I'm the guy you're reading about there. And we talked for a little while, and it was cool.
You know, fast forward to years later, I had moved out to Las Vegas and had left Los Alamos and went on to other things, and I wanted to get back into the scientific community. I left to start other businesses and that sort of thing. So I sent resumes out, and one of them went out to Ed Teller and referenced our meeting, you know, back in the day. And anyway, he remembered me and gave me a reference, somebody to contact at EG&G. And that's pretty much how it started.
**Joe Rogan** (3:29)
So you get a phone call or a letter? Like, what do you get?
**Bob Lazar** (3:36)
Well, I got a, what did I get? I got a letter initially, and went down for an interview probably a couple times, and it was down at EG&G Special Projects, which was at McCarran Airport at that time in Las Vegas.
**Joe Rogan** (3:51)
And did they give you any sort of job description of what you were applying for?
**Bob Lazar** (3:56)
They said it was for, I can't remember exactly what they did. This was a long time ago, but I think it was advanced propulsion or something like that. Something relatively generic, and they said, it's in a remote area, you know, it's going to be some days on, some days off, and you know, it was kind of a, it was kind of not exactly a full-time job, but you might have to be out there for two weeks at a time and take two weeks off. So it was kind of a, the work schedule would be kind of broken up.
**Joe Rogan** (4:30)
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