#1301 - Laird Hamilton

Joe Rogan (0:02)

And we're live. How are you, sir? What's going on, man?

Laird Hamilton (0:05)

Very well, thank you.

Joe Rogan (0:05)

First of all, thank you very much for the coffee machine.

I just learned that it's turmeric. I used to say tumeric. I used to not even think there was an R in there for some strange reason.

Laird Hamilton (0:16)

Well, in Hawaii, it's Olenna, so it just depends on which country you're in, yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

It's a root, right?

Laird Hamilton (0:22)

Yeah, it's in the ginger family.

Joe Rogan (0:24)

And why do they call it Olenna? Is that a Polynesian word?

Laird Hamilton (0:27)

That's just a Hawaiian name. I mean, the Indians probably have another, you know, in India, it's probably one of the most used, you know, roots.

All Indian foods is full of it.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Yeah. It's really healthy for you, right? It's great for inflammation.

Laird Hamilton (0:42)

Yeah. Well, gut health too.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

So you gave me this Laird Superfoods coffee machine, and I'm addicted to this now, this coffee with turmeric. I've never had it before.

Laird Hamilton (0:53)

Well, there's some other minerals and stuff in there too. So, if you're addicted to it, it's because there's things that are good for you.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

Yeah, like I crave it.

Laird Hamilton (1:00)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

Like it seems like something I should be drinking.

Laird Hamilton (1:03)

You know, I think sometimes people think cravings are based on negative, like, oh, I just, it's bad because I crave it. But I think cravings are natural.

But it's, you know, we abuse it when we use garbage. But when you're craving something like that, I mean, there's, you know, a bunch of minerals and a bunch of good fats, and there's a bunch of good stuff in there.

Joe Rogan (1:23)

Yeah, it's hard to tell though, right? Like, sometimes you crave sugar, sometimes you crave ice cream.

There's some cravings that are not good, but other ones are.

Laird Hamilton (1:32)

Exactly. But the system of craving, I believe, is part of a natural human thing that we have that was meant to crave good things, but we abuse it with, because sugar in nature is meant to be safe. That means it's safe to eat.

Joe Rogan (1:46)

Right, right, right.

Laird Hamilton (1:48)

So, yeah, so then we, so, but then we abuse it by disguising a bunch of garbage with sugar, and then people think, oh, that's great to eat.

Joe Rogan (1:56)

That makes sense. Yeah, because whenever I lift weights, I crave protein.

Laird Hamilton (1:59)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

I crave like fish or chicken or steak or something.

Laird Hamilton (2:02)

Well, you're, you're beating up muscles. You want protein.

Joe Rogan (2:05)

Yeah. But it's an instantaneous craving.

Laird Hamilton (2:07)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

Like, it's like right away, I'm like, oh, I got to eat something.

So, you've got me cranking the sauna up. Your wife told me that you crank yours up to 220 degrees. Is that real?

Laird Hamilton (2:18)

That's real.

Joe Rogan (2:19)

God damn, man. I get to 210 and I'm like, this is, how long do you do it? Or 220?

Laird Hamilton (2:23)

Well, it depends on how cold you go into it. So if your body, if your core temperature is way down, you can, you know, if you got off a stationary bike and your core was nice and hot and you went in there, you'd be lucky to get 10 or 15 minutes out. If you come out of an ice tub or you've been outside with minimal clothing, you could go in there for 20 minutes at 220

And so it just depends on, you know, where your core is.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Is that how you do it? You do from an ice path?

Laird Hamilton (2:56)

I will do it from an ice path. It just, you know, I think you just break it up. It's just like anything, any kind of training, you just want to constantly stress the system. And if you're used to a certain pattern, you know, go into it hot. Like if you go into a sauna hot, coming off of some cardio, that it's twice as hot. If you go in cold, then you can go for a longer period of time. And same with the ice. I mean, if you go into the ice cold, the ice will tap you. If you go in hot, you can be there.

Joe Rogan (3:23)

So they're doing some studies now on hot yoga at a Harvard. They're trying to figure out if hot yoga mimics the positive health effects of sauna.