#1285 - B-Real

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Three, two, one, boom. What's up, brother?

SPEAKER_2 (0:04)

How are you?

B-Real (0:07)

Thanks for having me. Yeah, we've both been busy, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan (0:11)

And in the meantime, we became legal.

B-Real (0:13)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

You guys were at the forefront, man. You guys were way ahead. You were ahead of everybody.

B-Real (0:20)

You know, we took a shot. We took a shot, you know, as stoners and advocates and whatnot, you know, we were stoners at first, right? You know, that's how you start. Like, you know, your friend says, hey man, try this, or you're the one who says, try this, right? It's one or the other. And, you know, eventually you start getting into the high times magazines and stuff like that and looking at the, you know, the centerfold pictures of the weed, but also we like to read too occasionally.

So, you know, we'd get into some of the activism aspect of it as well. And that's when we heard names like Jack Herrera, who pretty much opened our eyes to everything. And then, you know, I think we became real advocates. You know, at first, you know, we thought we were, you know, sort of, we read the high times magazines and we were stoners, so we thought we were advocates. But like in reading what other freedom fighters were actually doing out there and the protests and rallies and all that stuff, you know, we really weren't advocates like we thought. We became that later for sure.

Joe Rogan (1:24)

Yeah, Jack was way, way, way ahead of the curve. He's such an interesting story, rest in peace, because he was a Goldwater Republican, you know. He was just a button down old school Republican.

And then he got a girlfriend.

And then his girlfriend got him smoking weed. And then all of a sudden he's like, man, this is fucking amazing. God, why am I such a dick? What's wrong with me? Who am I? What am I doing with my life?

B-Real (1:49)

Absolutely, it totally flipped his life around.

Joe Rogan (1:51)

The Emperor Wears No Clothes is a fucking great book, man.

B-Real (1:55)

Yeah, it holds strong to this day because everything that he said in the book is sort of happening right now. All the stuff that they tried to prevent from happening through all the anti-cannabis propaganda.

You see it now. And now you see those very companies trying to get into the industry.

Joe Rogan (2:14)

They were always on the outside, waiting. There was always at the launching block, not quite ready to run, but any minute now it's gonna get legal.

B-Real (2:22)

Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, they're lying in wait with fields like acreage that no one can ever come close to.

Joe Rogan (2:29)

Probably, right?

B-Real (2:30)

Yeah, I mean, the thing I heard maybe like five years ago, before it was legal in Denver, or it was a bit longer than that, before we got legalization here, that companies like Philip Morris and companies like that were already buying land and already trademarking names for some of the cannabis that we know today, so that when they come into the game, they have ownership on some of the names and some of the brands and trademarks and stuff like that to that. And obviously, the acreage to grow vast sums of cannabis. Who knows how true that is, but I don't doubt some of that.

Joe Rogan (3:18)

I don't doubt it either, the sneakiest shit was Ohio. Ohio was, they were trying to make it legal, but if they were gonna make it legal, there was only like, it was two companies that were out, Jamie's from Ohio.

SPEAKER_2 (3:27)

I think like four, but I think that is how it went through.

Joe Rogan (3:30)

Yeah, they were the only ones gonna be allowed to grow it and sell it. Like, fuck, fuck, fuck you.

B-Real (3:34)

Monopoly.

Joe Rogan (3:35)

That is not legal weed, that is you being a cunt.

B-Real (3:38)

That's monopoly.

Joe Rogan (3:39)

Yeah, that's crazy.

B-Real (3:41)

You know, yeah, because you had people that got those licenses or permits or whatever that had no knowledge on the cannabis culture or business, how to cultivate and how to run retail stores or any of that. They didn't have any of that knowledge. And, you know, they'll usually give it to an insider because they know how much money they stand to make. That's like if there was just one distribution center, right, and everybody has to go through that distribution center.

How much money does that distribution center make? Because you gotta pay for your shit to go there. And then, you know, who knows if it, well, you know if it passes because you know as a cultivator what you did. So you'll know it'll pass because it's clean, but you still gotta pay that fee every time and it's gotta go through them.