#1231 - Matt Braunger

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Here we go in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, boom.

Matt, you're the first guy to ever bring homemade cold brew to the studio. I think we should enjoy some of this.

Matt Braunger (0:13)

Okay, let's have some. Yeah, it's pretty much kerosene, so you want to sip it. Be careful. Really? Yeah, I usually dilute it with a little bit of water.

Yeah, I found out about this guy, this company called Tristero, where it's a guy, and he just roasts all these beans from all over the world and drops them off at this one bicycle cafe.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

You live in Venice or something?

Matt Braunger (0:35)

No, no, I live in Los Feliz, close second.

Joe Rogan (0:37)

Close enough.

Matt Braunger (0:37)

Cheers, buddy.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Cheers.

Matt Braunger (0:38)

Thanks for having me.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

My pleasure.

I had a coffee expert on the podcast before. Just started, I mean, I don't know anything about coffee. Just out of whim, I had this guy, Peter Giuliano. That's his name, Giuliano or Giuliani. I'm avoiding the word Giuliani.

Matt Braunger (0:58)

I'm sure he is, too.

Jamie (0:59)

Giuliano.

Joe Rogan (1:00)

Giuliano, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's like a legit coffee expert. He explained to us that all coffee comes from Ethiopia.

Oh, really? Yeah. All of it came out of there.

Matt Braunger (1:09)

That's where the root of it.

Joe Rogan (1:10)

That's where it originated it.

And then they started growing it in Latin American countries and all over the other place. Columbia, and you know, as a kid, Colombian coffee was like the thing. Like Juan Valdez.

Matt Braunger (1:20)

Juan Valdez.

Joe Rogan (1:21)

Yeah.

Matt Braunger (1:21)

Yeah, he still, I went to Columbia over the summer and you still see pictures and drawings of him everywhere. Really? Yeah, because he brought kind of fame to Columbia and differentiated it from out the other South American countries, you know.

Joe Rogan (1:34)

Well, this guy was really, this is actually very good cold brew.

Matt Braunger (1:38)

Oh, cool.

Joe Rogan (1:38)

It's very tasty.

Matt Braunger (1:39)

Nice.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

Interesting. It's a different flavor. Yeah.

Matt Braunger (1:41)

I mean, cold brew coffee, you take at least 70% of the bitterness out and it makes it smoother and there's no acidic and you don't get that. That's the stomach sourness you get when you drink a big pot of hot coffee.

Joe Rogan (1:53)

I usually don't get that. I'm okay with coffee, but I do like the flavor of this. This is really good. So this is Ethiopian.

Yeah.

Matt Braunger (2:01)

I'm no expert. I just go, what's the best one to make cold brew? And they pointed a bag and I buy it and that's all.

Joe Rogan (2:07)

Smart. Just defer to experts.

Matt Braunger (2:10)

That's kind of the key to life, I think.

Joe Rogan (2:15)

But Giuliano, sorry, Peter, he was explaining to us that the reason why they all have these different complex flavors and how they would take care of the beans because Ethiopia is a very dry climate, whereas South America is very hot. So they developed all these problems with coffee rust. Have you ever heard of coffee rust?

They developed weird molds and stuff.

Matt Braunger (2:36)

That's wild.

Joe Rogan (2:36)

So they had to figure out different ways of processing and wet processing as versus to just leaving them out and drying them.

Matt Braunger (2:42)

Oh, wow. Did you talk about the illegality of coffee in its kind of earlier stages when it would go out into different regions and cultures and religious areas?

Joe Rogan (2:50)

Well, Bourdain actually was the first person to tell me that, that they were outlawing coffee shops and coffee houses back in the day. See, there's a clip somewhere online of Bourdain explaining to us how coffee shops were being outlawed because at the time, everyone basically was drunk all day.

Because people just, all they did was drink booze because, you know, a lot of times, if you had water sitting around, that water would probably have some funky shit in it. If it was still water, you'd get sick drinking it. But you could be, you know, if water had the alcohol in it, you wouldn't get sick.

Matt Braunger (3:25)

It's a preservative. Like, monks would only drink beer.

Joe Rogan (3:29)

Isn't that crazy?

Matt Braunger (3:30)

It's not. I can't imagine, if you've ever had like Belgian ale, it's like, I have three. I'm just like, okay, Jesus, and you think those guys just pacing themselves all day to stay somewhat hydrated and.