#1223 - Greg Fitzsimmons

Joe Rogan (0:09)

That's it, wow, a two count from young Jamie.

Greg Fitzsimmons (0:12)

Ah, messing with the buttons and hit the wrong one, sorry.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Gregory, how are you, fella?

Jamie (0:19)

Joe Rogan, always a pleasure to be back in the, what I love is that you kept this studio the same as the old one, cause the vibe was perfect.

Joe Rogan (0:27)

I tried to recreate it. I felt like as long as we had the desk, we have the heart.

We have the heart of the studio. The rest of it is just stuff.

Jamie (0:35)

And Jamie, the heart.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

And Jamie, there's something about, I really think that when you use a desk for a long time, there's something about desks. Like if you found out like, Hunter S. Thompson's desk was for sale, you'd be like, holy shit, I wanna get my hands on that thing. Like that's got some ooze. You know, he wrote on this? Holy shit.

Jamie (1:01)

Yeah, nice old, one of those old like railway station roll top desks.

Joe Rogan (1:06)

Yeah, oh, those are the best.

Jamie (1:07)

Yeah. I'm gonna protect my shit while I'm out so nobody reads my journal.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

One of my all time favorite photos of him was him typing in Big Sur, like sitting on like this outside table, typing.

I think he's on the edge of a cliff or something like that in the background. You see the water?

Jamie (1:28)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

You know that photo, Jamie? Yeah, that's it right there.

Jamie (1:33)

Oh, look at that. And with the pipe, yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:35)

That is one of the most iconic writing photos of all time. Hunter S. Thompson with hair, with a typewriter in front of the water at Big Sur in probably like 1960 something.

Jamie (1:48)

And you know his schedule. Did you ever read his schedule, his daily schedule?

Joe Rogan (1:52)

Not only did I read it, You lived it. I read it on air, and I might have read it on air with you.

Jamie (1:58)

Yeah, I think you did.

Greg Fitzsimmons (1:59)

This is a self-portrait.

Jamie (2:01)

Hell, wow.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:02)

So he took the picture himself when I said it to that.

Joe Rogan (2:06)

Wow.

Jamie (2:06)

So this was in.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:07)

I mean, it's what it's listed as.

Joe Rogan (2:09)

This is in Big Sur.

That was when he was in the early stages of his eruption. That was like right around when he was writing Hell's Angels probably.

Greg Fitzsimmons (2:18)

61

Joe Rogan (2:19)

61? Yeah, that motherfucker was unique.

Jamie (2:24)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:24)

Did you ever see his documentary?

Jamie (2:26)

No.

Joe Rogan (2:27)

There's a couple of really good ones, but the one that was the mainstream one, what was that? Yeah.

Jamie (2:33)

Gonzo.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

Yeah, it was called Gonzo. And then there was another one that was made by BBC that's really good too.

But yeah, if you could get a hold of fucking Hemingway's desk, wow.

Jamie (2:48)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:48)

Hemingway may be like, it's worth too much. You wouldn't want to write on it.

Jamie (2:53)

Yeah, that's true.

Joe Rogan (2:54)

You know, it's Hemingway's desk, like I can't write on this fucking thing. Yeah. If it was Hunter's desk, I'd totally write on it.

Jamie (3:00)

Well, first you scrape the excess coke off the top.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

Just lick it.

Jamie (3:04)

Lick it off.

Wipe the jism from the underside of the table. Get the vag sauce off the sides.

Joe Rogan (3:13)

What about his typewriter? How much do you think his typewriter was for? Hemingway's house and hangouts preserved in Havana. Wow.

So they preserved where he lived.

Jamie (3:25)

And I wonder if that's where he killed himself. I think he was in Cuba when he killed himself.

Joe Rogan (3:36)

His style of writing and that whole bravado that went with him, he was a different cat. He was like a...

You thought of him as an aggressive male writer. That's an odd thing, like Hemingway.

Jamie (3:54)

Right.

Joe Rogan (3:54)

He was aggressive.

Jamie (3:56)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:57)

It wasn't, I mean, even Stephen King for all his most horrific depictions of violence and gore and terror in his books, he's not thought of as like this imposing physical thing.

Jamie (4:09)

Well, Hemingway was in the war.

Joe Rogan (4:11)

Yeah.

Jamie (4:11)

You know?

Joe Rogan (4:13)

He was at his elderly age.

Jamie (4:16)

He was, he used to go skiing in the winter in, I think it was Switzerland, and they would all, there was no chair lifts back then. So you would fucking grab your 50-pound skis and walk up the side of the Alps Jesus Christ. for like a half a day to take one fucking run. And he would do that every day.