#1212 - David Goggins

David Goggins (0:00)

That's how you wheel, man.

Joe Rogan (0:04)

Boo!

Boom, and we're live, David Goggins. Your book is fucking fantastic, man. This has been my running partner. The audio version of it has been my running partner for the last week. It's fucking amazing, man.

David Goggins (0:20)

Well, I appreciate that, thank you.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

Well, you guys are doing something very unusual. The book is great, I've read it, like sat down and read read, but the audio book is really interesting, because you and the gentleman that you wrote it with.

David Goggins (0:33)

Yeah, Adam, Adam Skolnick.

Joe Rogan (0:35)

Adam Skolnick who reads it, then you come on and talk about things in between. So it's more than just the book.

David Goggins (0:43)

Right.

Joe Rogan (0:43)

It's the book plus. It's the book plus like a podcast.

David Goggins (0:47)

Right. Yeah, so how that came to be, man, is as I was going through this book for last year, we would go through, change stuff up. I have so many stories, man. We went through interviews with people, so many stories.

He would come back and read it to me, all my changes. And when he read it, I'm like, man, this guy has a great reading voice. I love his reading voice.

And I started getting these different ideas about doing it. I'm like, you know what? Maybe he can read and I can do my podcast thing on the side. And he can like, after each chapter, in between chapters, make it real interactive type of thing. And that's kind of how it came to be, man.

Joe Rogan (1:20)

In the beginning, I gotta be honest. The beginning, I was like, who is this motherfucker talking for David Goggins? I was gonna call Dave, like, Dave, can you redo this? Why don't you do it? Why are you?

But it works.

David Goggins (1:30)

Right.

Joe Rogan (1:30)

It really does work.

Like as it goes on. And I got, also, it's very obvious that you and him are good friends. So when you guys are talking, then I don't mind him reading for you as much for some strange reason.

David Goggins (1:42)

Right.

Joe Rogan (1:43)

I know it doesn't make any sense.

David Goggins (1:44)

Well, I want to say we're good friends.

I'm just joking at him, though you can hear me right now. He became a pain in my fucking ass during this process, man, because, you know, he's just, he's a real anal guy. You know, he helped out a lot. You know, I'm a real raw, sadistic type of mindset. And he helped me put that on paper, man, so I give him a lot of credit for that.

Joe Rogan (2:04)

Well, it comes across, the book is outstanding. And, you know, it's more than just sitting, like sitting across you and you telling your story is one thing, but this long, detailed history of how you became to be the person you became, I think it's very educational for people, because they can realize like, oh, he wasn't always this guy. This is what's fucked up about people. Like you see a guy who's like you, who runs, I mean, how many ultra marathons did you run in a row? You had some insane number.

David Goggins (2:37)

I ran 800s and eight weekends in a row.

Joe Rogan (2:40)

Just stop and think about that, ladies and gentlemen. 800s means eight 100 mile races, eight weekends in a row. 100 mile race will put you out for fucking six months. You know, when you ran eight of them, eight weekends, it's a fucking insane accomplishment.

David Goggins (2:57)

It was nuts.

Joe Rogan (2:57)

You think about a person like that, you think of them as in this like static, fully formed version.

You don't usually get to see, and especially someone like you, who you went into so much depth about, your rise and fall and rise and fall. It wasn't like a straight linear process between you getting inspired and then you becoming this bad motherfucker.

David Goggins (3:17)

No, it wasn't like, what's that show called?

That Will Smith plays, that black guy who makes it in the financial world. Pursuit of Happiness.

Joe Rogan (3:29)

I never saw that.

David Goggins (3:30)

Yeah, it's a great movie. It wasn't like Pursuit of Happiness, man. Like with the guy struggles and he gets over it and he makes it.

I fell on my ass. I thought I got to top Mount Everest, and Mount Everest just fucking slide right underneath me, man. I was like, God dog, I got to start from scratch again. Scratch became my friend, literally, man.