#1186 - Marques Brownlee

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Here we go, four, three, two, one, boom. First of all, before we get started, I want to say I love your reviews. You are my favorite.

You have the, well, you and Lou, I love Lou too. But you're so good at covering all the bases of, whether it's cell phones or any kind of weird technology that's coming out, and you just nail it. You're my go-to guy, man.

Marques Brownlee (0:28)

Well, thank you. That's quite an intro.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

I really want to tell you, whenever a new cell phone is out, I saw that you walked in with the red, but that's not your daily driver?

Marques Brownlee (0:37)

No, I thought you would like this. This is, I mean, every phone now is glass on glass and everything. But this red hydrogen one has a lot of weird stuff about it.

First of all, it's about twice as big as it has to be, but it's from a red, which is a camera company.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

Wow, all these buttons everywhere. Yeah, so this is a grip, this is not buttons, this is just a grip, this texture on the outside.

Marques Brownlee (0:59)

Rubberized side grip, you could probably drop it from 45 feet and it'll be fine.

Throw it across the room. But the weird part is it's made by red. So red is a camera company. They, I use their cameras. I love their cameras. But then they come out with this, which is a phone, which is kind of weird.

But there it is right there on the screen. Yeah, that's my photo, actually. So that's next to the iPhone 8 Plus, which is already a huge phone.

Joe Rogan (1:19)

And what is this metal thing on the back, the brass looking?

Marques Brownlee (1:22)

So it's got these pins, and it's supposed to next year support modules that will connect to it.

So potentially better camera, bigger battery, VR, whatever Reds decide to support or make, will attach to it. But it's also kind of may or may not happen for a while.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

Yeah, because Jamie ordered one. When did you order one?

Jamie (1:45)

I think I paid for it last, I don't know, right when it went on sale. Yeah, like the last August, maybe.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

Vaporware?

Marques Brownlee (1:52)

My official one just shipped. That's a prototype.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

This is a prototype you have here?

Marques Brownlee (1:56)

Yes. So I've worked with Red for, I've seen a lot of the process since then. I've gotten like eight software updates, and this is not final, but like, it's a pretty good idea.

Joe Rogan (2:06)

Yeah, what do you think about it so far?

Marques Brownlee (2:07)

So it's surprisingly good. A lot of people, like new camera companies or new companies come up and make a phone, and it's just not right in a lot of ways. They kind of took a lot of notes and they went minimal with the software. I like that about it. I was expecting the camera to be amazing.

They don't use, they don't make this sensor, so the camera is not amazing yet.

But I think the modules will make this what it is. I think the phone by itself is like not really $1300 phone, but it's support for upcoming things that they're planning, I think will make it good.

Joe Rogan (2:42)

Is it a problem when a company tries to get into the cell phone business and you're competing with Samsung, Apple, Huawei, there's so many companies that are so advanced, for you to be red, who's essentially a camera manufacturer, they make video cameras, really high end for people who don't know, really high end HD video cameras, a lot of movies are shot on them, films, all kinds of things.

Marques Brownlee (3:05)

Even YouTube videos.

Joe Rogan (3:07)

Yeah, you do all your YouTube videos with it?

Is it really that good for you? Is it worth having a red camera? It's a large camera, right? It's heavy?

Marques Brownlee (3:15)

Yeah, it started off not that great, and then I got used to it, and then they got better. So it was probably like five years ago that I first started with a red, a red Scarlett. This 4K, 5K camera, and yeah, it's kind of a pain.

But the workflow has gotten better. They've worked with smaller teams, like individual creators even, to get the cameras now smaller. It does more in a smaller body. So it's gotten a lot easier to use a red for a small team, whereas like, yeah, five years ago, they were making a red for a movie shoot with 15 people using it. Yeah.