#1163 - Banachek

Joe Rogan (0:03)

Here we go.

Four, three, two, one, boom. And now we're live. How are you, sir?

Banachek (0:10)

I am wonderful.

Joe Rogan (0:10)

We had wonderful chat off-stage.

Banachek (0:12)

Yeah. Yeah, you probably would love to have had that on here, but I just couldn't do it.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

No, no, I wouldn't. I would never want to do that to you.

Banachek (0:19)

Yeah, no, yeah. Exactly. And I wouldn't want to do that to you.

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

Yeah. So listen, man, it's great to see you again.

Banachek (0:25)

It's good to see you again. Been a while.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

Yeah. Yeah, I know we ran into each other once in Vegas at a bar.

Banachek (0:29)

Mandalay Bay. Mandalay Bay.

So randomly. Eye Candy.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

Is that what it's called?

Banachek (0:35)

Yeah, I turn around, and you turn around, and we made eye contact in Eye Candy.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

How long ago was that? That was a long time ago.

Banachek (0:41)

Yeah, it had to be about probably five years ago, four years ago now, right?

Joe Rogan (0:44)

I know we talked about doing a podcast back then even.

Banachek (0:46)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

I'm glad we finally got together and did it.

Banachek (0:48)

Yeah, me too. It's gonna be fun.

Joe Rogan (0:50)

You did that TV show that I did a long time ago, Joe Rogan Questions Everything, and you blew me away. You and me and Duncan, and you showed us all the tricks that people use. Well, you didn't.

You showed us that they were tricks, but you didn't show us how to do the tricks.

Banachek (1:10)

I broke one thing down for you, but that was about it. It was a psychological thing. Because here's the thing, right? It's better to know that you can be fooled rather than tell you how you can be fooled. And we'll get into this about with scientists and how I fooled them a little bit. But people always tell me, why don't you just teach parapsychologists the tricks?

And the problem is, is for every single trick that I have, I probably have about seven or eight methods. So if I teach you one method, Joe, somebody else will come along, and maybe a method of bend a key.

They'll do it a completely different convincing way, and you'll be looking for that one method. And you may say, because you don't have the experience, you may say, this has to be real. I know how the trick's done. They're not doing that. They are actually doing something completely different. This has to be real. So it's better to get an expert.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

Let me ask you this one, because my friend Eddie was at Venice Beach, and this guy was doing, he had some Save the Rainforest thing. And he said, if I tell you your birthday, will you listen to me and donate some money or something like that?

Banachek (2:11)

Right.

Joe Rogan (2:11)

And he goes, okay. And then he just goes, May 15th.

Banachek (2:15)

Right, just straight out like that?

Joe Rogan (2:17)

Yeah, just figured it out.

Banachek (2:18)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:18)

I'm like, how could someone do that?

Banachek (2:19)

I can't tell you, because I wasn't there. There could have been other circumstances. There could have been something overheard. There could have been something he's seen. He may have been in the store when the guy took his driver's license.

There's a million things that could have happened that your friend Eddie was not aware of before that guy even walked up to him. So I really can't answer that, because it's circumstantial. And here's the other thing. Does Eddie really remember everything exactly the way that it was? Or has he forgotten something and left something out in that story, because he's told it so many times?

And usually, here's the thing, right?

When people want to convince you of something, they embellish.

And the more times they tell that story, that embellishment becomes their reality. They basically create a whole new reality for themselves that they forget that maybe they wrote it down. They forget that maybe they said something. They forget that the person might have asked specific questions. He might have said, Yeah, I get the feeling that you're probably not born in the beginning of the year, maybe later in the year, maybe in the fall or something like that. The person says, No, but I am born in the year. Now you know it's the wintertime. So now you get within a few months right there. So there's, there are ways within mentalism, which is what I am a mentalist, and we'll explain what that is in a minute. But there are ways to do those things, and there's many ways to do those type of things. So without being there, I can't tell you exactly what your friend Eddie experienced. To him, it was very, very real.