#1138 - Ted Nugent

Ted Nugent (0:00)

Morgan, the masters are out there.

Joe Rogan (0:01)

I use one, three, two, one, boom, and we're live. We're just talking about target panic, ladies and gentlemen. Most people don't know about all that.

Ted Nugent (0:07)

It's like irectile dysfunction for archery.

Joe Rogan (0:11)

It's panic, right?

Ted Nugent (0:12)

Yeah, it's freaky. It's because you want that arrow to go so bad. By the way, thanks for having me on here.

Joe Rogan (0:17)

My pleasure.

Ted Nugent (0:18)

I understand from all the input I get from all my intelligent friends that you deserve me. Oh, I'm excited about this.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

Your assistant reached out and said...

Ted Nugent (0:28)

My people reach out, yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

She said, I think you'll have more in common with Ted than you realize. Yeah. That was her pitch.

Ted Nugent (0:35)

Truth, logic, common sense, spirit, physics of the American dream.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Perhaps controversial and misunderstood people.

Ted Nugent (0:43)

Yes. Boy, we're surrounded.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Maybe both of us.

Ted Nugent (0:45)

Clusterfuck, ring any bells? Yes, indeed.

Joe Rogan (0:48)

So yeah, so Target Panic, I got lucky in that I got hooked up with John Dudley early before I developed Target Panic.

Ted Nugent (0:55)

He's the master.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

And he explained to me...

Shot sequences. Yeah, shot sequences. Yeah.

Ted Nugent (1:01)

And let's make this available universally to all of our podcast friends out there. In life, the clusterfuck to omniscience is what we aspire to.

Joe Rogan (1:16)

Yes.

Ted Nugent (1:16)

Maximum level of awareness on all fronts. I don't care if you're a welder, a podcaster, a guitar player, or a butcher.

Maximum efficiency, being the best that you can be. Clear mind, clear conscience, true North Compass. In the world of archery, because it does consume you, and here I am 70 years clean and sober, because I'm currently and forever consumed with the mystical flight of the arrow, which is the origins of Zen, the Japanese religion of not shooting an arrow, not being an arrow, but being the path of your life. And if you use the gifts from God to the ultimate application of efficiency and effectiveness, you can put that fucking arrow right where you want it to. And the baggage that all humans have to deal with and it's most painfully manifested in the pursuit of archery is too many minds. You can't think about it. If you got to think about playing Wang Dang Sweet Poon Tang, you ain't going to play it. It better just be you and unleash. And with an arrow, because you want to let that arrow go, because you're shooting an arrow. It's archery. I need to put that arrow down there in that bullseye or in that pump station or in that crease of the buffalo. And so you want it to go because that's what you're here for, is to let the arrow go. So you got to tell yourself, you can't let the arrow go.

You have to shoot so many arrows throughout your life that no too many minds, subconscious physics of spirituality, ingrained deep within your origins and Aboriginal ancestry. There it is.

If ever there was an aim small, miss small perfection, it's archery. And let me, I don't mean to monologue here, but this is so much of my life.

Joe Rogan (3:24)

I know.

Ted Nugent (3:25)

No matter what you do, and I've done this since the 60s, when the hippies were trying to get me stoned, I'm going, no, that's not what you want to do. What you want to do is get a bow and arrow. What you want to do is escape what you're trying to escape, the pressures. The pressures, fuck those pressures. You be the source of pressure, not the receiver of pressure. And my dad raised me, my dad was a drill sergeant. God bless that son of a bitch. He was awesome. I hated him. Discipline, discipline, discipline, discipline, especially at the archery range. And so I learned archery, and when I'm playing guitar and I'm playing all this outraged Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Little Richard stuff, and everybody's getting high and drunk, and they're really great musicians, and the more high and the more drunk they got, they became less great musicians until the point where they weren't even musicians anymore. And so I would escape that, and I was 11, 12, and there was no hippies, it was beatniks.

And I'd get back to my little house in Redford on the Rouge River in Detroit, and I get that little bow and arrow, and I go down to Skunk Hollow, and there's a river rat, and even as a stupid, mushy brained, idiot child, I was able to...