#1136 - Hamilton Morris

Joe Rogan (0:01)

I try so hard.

Boom, and we're live, Hamilton Morris. Sober as fuck. How about you?

Hamilton Morris (0:11)

Absolutely sober.

Joe Rogan (0:12)

Yes, this time. So we did a podcast seven years ago, and most people apparently didn't know how fucked up we were. But I figured, damn, we're here with Hamilton Morris, we should go deep. And we just kept hitting that joint till I lost most of my grasp on reality while we're talking.

It was just a very slippery conversation. I was just too high to form coherent thoughts. It was just whatever I pieced together was just, you know, it was almost like miming a conversation.

Hamilton Morris (0:45)

But now seven years later and you have a new place.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

Yeah.

Hamilton Morris (0:48)

It's beautiful.

Joe Rogan (0:49)

Yeah. Well, you were at the early days. We did it at my house.

Hamilton Morris (0:52)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

That was way, way, way back in the day.

Hamilton Morris (0:54)

I had no idea really. I knew you were, of course, but I didn't know about your podcast entirely. I'd seen clips of you on YouTube and it wasn't until I was driving home from that recording and my phone just filled with hundreds of emails that I realized, oh wow, this is a serious phenomenon that I was not aware of.

And now I see it's just become huge.

Joe Rogan (1:15)

It's a weird thing, dude. It's got the wheel. I just sort of have to show up.

It's a very strange, and it sounds like modesty or something like that, but I'm just being totally honest. Like this thing does itself.

Hamilton Morris (1:31)

I think a lot of it might have to do with the long form because people are so used to seeing people's opinions condensed and filtered into these sound bites and snippets and to hear an extended conversation with someone where they can actually tell stories and articulate their opinions in a nuanced, careful way is so rare.

Joe Rogan (1:50)

I agree.

It's one of the reasons why I don't do those shows anymore, like panel shows and things like that. It's just so frustrating.

Hamilton Morris (1:57)

Oh, it's insane. I have very little experience with that sort of thing, but I did Dr. Oz last year. One of the worst ones. And I don't know how any normal person could function in that sort of environment. I mean, I have a TV show, so arguably I'm well trained for that sort of thing. But unless you're an actor who's prepared a line to say as soon as they point at you, there's no way that you could function because it's not a genuine conversation. It's just an opportunity to launch one sentence sound bites and then audience applause.

Joe Rogan (2:27)

Yeah. And also the audience is such a strange element to add to a conversation. I mean, if you and I were having this conversation exactly in this room, but to the left of us is an enormous group of people, we feel weird. We would have to address them. We'd have to turn to them. It would be odd.

Hamilton Morris (2:46)

Following illuminated applause and laughter signs.

Joe Rogan (2:49)

God, those are the weirdest. When there's always the warm up guy who's like, okay, everybody, we're coming back from break, coming back from break. And they hold up the sign, applause, applause, applause, and everybody goes crazy.

Hamilton Morris (3:00)

And they create the worst environment. I was on this discussion about crotom. Are you familiar with this?

Joe Rogan (3:05)

I'm on it right now.

Hamilton Morris (3:06)

Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan (3:07)

Yeah, I just took some. I fucked my knee up the other day. I did something, and it's been stiff and painful. So I iced it before I came here, and then I just took six of them. See what happens.

I took ten once. Oof.

Hamilton Morris (3:21)

Ten one-gram capsules. Ten pills?

Joe Rogan (3:23)

Yeah.

Hamilton Morris (3:24)

I don't know how much.

Joe Rogan (3:24)

I don't know.

Can you grab that bag? There's a bag that's sitting right on the sink. I'll tell you exactly what's in it. But now I get why people might think it's a drug.

Hamilton Morris (3:35)

What is a drug?

Joe Rogan (3:36)

Yeah, for sure. But when I took four, I was like, well, I took two for the first time I took it. I took two and a couple of times I took two and look, it's like a mild stimulant. But then when you get to the range of eight to ten pills, it's like, oh, this, this will fuck you up. This stuff.