#1131 - Dave Rubin

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Five, four, three, two.

Dave Rubin, ladies and gentlemen. How are you, buddy?

Dave Rubin (0:09)

What's up, brother?

Joe Rogan (0:10)

Dude, I haven't seen you. Well, the last time we saw each other was just now, but before that was right before the election.

Dave Rubin (0:17)

The day before the world changed.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Squirrely times. Squirrely.

Dave Rubin (0:22)

Doesn't that literally, it seems like a lifetime ago? Not even a lifetime ago. It's like a different life for me, I think it's a different life for you. You think about how much has changed for both of us in that time, but it seems like another planet.

Like an alternate universe the day before the election.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

It is in a lot of ways, right?

People are, the world's going, well, the world's trying to find its footing. Yes. It's a lot of craziness.

Dave Rubin (0:46)

Well, I hate to tell you, Joe.

But you are a little piece of the finding of the footing. Because people are finding the footing. I'm on tour with Peterson right now. I just got in this morning from Atlanta, and it's like, there is, without being hyperbolic, there is some kind of awakening happening right now. People are kinda getting their shit together. They're kinda sorting out things. They're through long-form conversations, like we're all having, and all these people that we're now connected with. There's something happening where people are going, there's another way to make sense.

And let me figure out what that is. Doesn't mean we have all the answers, and I'm sure as hell know I don't. And I don't think you think you do either. But we're at least giving them a little room to figure it out. And it's pretty cool.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

Well, the thing about Peterson that's been fascinating is how many people misrepresent what he says to try to frame him in a way that makes him evil and makes their position seem more ethical or more moral or better or more intellectual. There's so many articles being written about him almost on a daily basis that misrepresent what he's saying.

Dave Rubin (1:49)

It's epic bullshit. I mean, that's all it is. These guys want clicks. That's all they want. I mean, we've done about 20 shows in the last six weeks or so, bounced around from Nashville and Houston and Atlanta and Chicago and everywhere else.

The crowds have been incredible. It's probably split. First off, they always go, well, it's angry white men. That's the main thing. It's all angry white men. Now, first off, let's say it was all angry white men there. That in and of itself doesn't mean it's bad. Let's say there was a really disaffected group of angry white men that really felt like either masculinity had been compromised or they couldn't get jobs or they didn't feel good about their lives. If there was someone talking to them that was helping them, that would actually be good. But let's just put that aside, right? Because they don't mean it in a positive way.

So they say it's all angry white men. Now, I could tell you it's about 60, 40, male to female, roughly.

Joe Rogan (2:37)

At Jordan shows?

Dave Rubin (2:39)

At Jordan shows, yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:40)

Do you think that's like dates that reluctantly go along with men?

Dave Rubin (2:44)

There are some. I mean, there will be guys that...

Well, usually girls will come up to me after and they'll go, you know, he's a big fan of you guys or he loves Jordan or he loves you or blah, blah, blah. And I'm just here.

But then they all have a great time. I mean, I'm telling you, this thing has been an insane love fest. I know you saw the video that Jordan posted last night. It was his birthday last night.

We were at... Where the hell was I? Atlanta, the Tabernacle in Atlanta. You know, almost 3,000 people singing Happy Birthday to him. We brought out this freaking stuffed lobster and a piece of meat because he's on this crazy meat diet now.

And it's like it's an endless love fest. Every street we walk down, people high-fiving us saying hi. We did a little meet and greet impromptu thing at the Lincoln Memorial, and about 100 people showed up just out of nowhere. And it's like these people are just trying to figure shit out. They're not white supremacists. They're not alt-right. They don't hate women. It is literally nothing that they say because they want clicks, and the way they get clicks, I mean, you know, the way they get clicks is they say the absolute reverse from the truth. It's not that they lie a little bit. Like a little lie, I think nobody would even pick up on it.