#1118 - Theo Von

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Here we go, baby. Five, four, three, two, one.

And there can be only one Theo Von.

Theo Von (0:08)

Well, as far as we know, as far as I know.

Joe Rogan (0:10)

In the universe, though, do you know what they think?

Theo Von (0:12)

What?

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Do you know the concept of infinity, apparently, as explained to me by people far smarter than us, is that the universe is so big that not only is there intelligent life out there for sure, but there's humans out there for sure. And infinity is so big that that means somewhere in the universe, there is another Theo Von that has done exactly the same things that you've done, said exactly the same things that you've said, been in the same conversations that you've been in, down to that pause, down to the millisecond, an infinite number of times.

Theo Von (0:53)

And you believe it?

Joe Rogan (0:54)

Yes, not just one, not just one time, but an unending number of times, because that's how big infinity is. You're not buying it?

Theo Von (1:03)

I'll bet infinity is smaller than that. If I had to bet, yeah, I just don't think that that could, for me, that couldn't, for me, if I knew that that was true, that would just break my heart, I feel like, because then you would feel like everything you're doing feels pointless, you know?

Joe Rogan (1:17)

But isn't it anyway? Just what you know about the universe, let's just say the universe was limited to the size of this galaxy.

Theo Von (1:24)

Okay.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Right?

Theo Von (1:25)

Which it really could be.

Joe Rogan (1:26)

Could be, I mean, you and I, let's be honest, we're kind of dumb.

Theo Von (1:30)

Oh yeah, I'm just guessing.

Joe Rogan (1:31)

Guessing, totally guessing. I mean, I'll say some big words every now and then, but the reality is I learn those big words from people that actually understand them, and I'm just repeating the noises that they say.

Theo Von (1:40)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

So they say, oh, Broker thinks he's all fucking smart, and I'm the last person that thinks I'm smart, trust me.

Theo Von (1:47)

Yeah, we're all mimics, really.

Joe Rogan (1:49)

Exactly. So if you look at, I think they think there are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy, just that alone. It's too big. It's too big. It's too big for you to wrap your head around. It's too big.

When you think about how big that is, there's no way you really think about it. You just kinda like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, big.

Now think of infinite. So hundreds of billions of those. And then they think it's possible that inside each galaxy, they know that the center of each galaxy has a supermassive black hole in it. And they think that inside that supermassive black hole might be a whole nother universe. Filled with galaxies, each of them that have supermassive black holes in the center, you go through one of those, another universe. Infinite universes. So infinite infinities. So the universe is infinite, and there's infinite numbers of universes.

So somewhere out there is another Theo Von. Same haircut, same jokes, same style.

Theo Von (2:51)

Really?

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Yep.

Theo Von (2:52)

Same back problems?

Joe Rogan (2:53)

Killing it.

Theo Von (2:54)

Dude, that's scary. I feel like if that's true, that makes the jog I took this morning seem so much shorter, if the universe is that much bigger. I don't think it could be that big.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

Look at this. What are you showing me here, Jamie?

Theo Von (3:04)

What is that?

Jamie (3:05)

What, the simulation on the inside of a black hole.

Theo Von (3:07)

That's iMovie, bro. That could be anything.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

Do that shit again? Well, this is just animation. So the idea is you go through the black hole and you wake up again, a baby in Louisiana.

Your mama's cuddling you. Oh, you're such a sweet thing, you know? Birds are chirping, but they're chirping 200 trillion light years away. You believe it.

Believe is a weird word.

Theo Von (3:36)

Do you feel it?

Joe Rogan (3:37)

It's too big. I don't even feel sun, the sun. I go outside and I go, oh yeah, it's warm. But I don't feel that there's a thing that's a million times bigger than earth, that's floating in the sky.

I don't feel that.

Theo Von (3:49)

To me, the hard part for me is when they say that the universe keeps expanding, you know? It sounds like something a child would say. That part sounds fiction to me.