#1112 - Cameron Hanes

Joe Rogan (0:00)

People were surfing, though. They caught those waves. They were worried about a tsunami.

It's not going to sink, but it's going to get bigger. That's what it is. The whole thing is a fucking volcano. People were shocked. Wait, the volcano is a volcano?

Yeah, you live on a goddamn volcano.

Cameron Hanes (0:15)

Oh, I wish they don't fly over it, though.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

Yeah, I was looking at the map of the way we fly. We fly so we can't see it the entire way, which is bullshit. Plus, it was cloudy, which is also bullshit.

That would have been cool. I even asked the guy, like, which way do we go? Yeah, like that would be fucking awesome if we flew over that thing.

Oh, fuck living on a volcano, though. Good place to visit, though.

Cameron Hanes (0:43)

It's beautiful.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Oh, stunning.

Cameron Hanes (0:45)

Yeah, it's great.

Joe Rogan (0:46)

And where we were, we were on Lanai, and Lanai is an interesting place. Three thousand people, twenty thousand deer.

Cameron Hanes (0:55)

Right. And so you do the math and you think, hey, this is going to be gravy. There is way more deer than people, but, god, it's tough. It's tough hunting. Tough bow hunting, for sure.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

Well, this is one of the best examples of if you want to make an argument for hunting, like this in certain situations, this is probably the best example. You must control the population of these animals. They don't have any predators and they evolved around tigers.

They come from India. So these Axis deer, they were a gift from Hong Kong to King Kamehameha V.

Cameron Hanes (1:31)

I saw your history lesson.

Joe Rogan (1:33)

Yeah, in 1860 I was getting all into it today and I wanted to make my post about it. That was awesome. So what was the number that they shoot? How many did they shoot a week just to feed people and control the population?

Cameron Hanes (1:47)

They said 1,500, but not a week, was it?

Joe Rogan (1:49)

No, I think it was 30 a day.

Cameron Hanes (1:50)

Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan (1:51)

They were saying they shoot 30 a day.

Cameron Hanes (1:53)

Right, because they have to go at night.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

Yep, with night vision scopes.

Cameron Hanes (1:58)

And shoot does.

Joe Rogan (1:59)

Yeah, just to take them out.

Cameron Hanes (2:00)

Just to take them out. That's so many deer.

Joe Rogan (2:02)

When we were there at night, we got, first of all, we got, I got super lucky, thanks to you. You let me take that deer.

When we landed, we went to scout, we got out of the car, we went and looked around, and within five minutes, we saw a buck feeding in a doable spot.

I creeped in. It was total, it just gives you a distorted perception of your chances of success, though. Because for the next five days, I got nothing until the last day. But in 15 minutes, I got the first deer. But when you get there, you realize how switched on these things are. There's nothing like these things.

Cameron Hanes (2:43)

No, I've hunted in Africa, and the antelope there are pretty quick also. Just like that, just because of lions and hyenas and yeah, just twitchy.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Just super jumping.

Cameron Hanes (2:53)

Twitchy. But these deer are very similar, just quick.

Joe Rogan (2:56)

When we were leaving that night, when you and me and Adam were in the truck and we were leaving, and we turned the lights on in the truck, and you could see hundreds of deer in front of us. It was the craziest, it was like a crowd being led out of a concert or something like that.

Cameron Hanes (3:11)

Or a basketball game. Oh, basketball game is over, because they're coming out of the trees, crossing the road into the open field where we've been hunting, and it's just hundreds.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

You can't imagine. If you haven't been there, you can't imagine.

If you moved there or if you just went there for a few days, you'd kind of get it. You'd be like, okay, what do you do about these things? Well, you can't give them birth control. They eat grass. So how are you going to stop them from breeding? You're not.

Are you going to introduce tigers to lanai?

Cameron Hanes (3:41)

That would be cool.

Joe Rogan (3:42)

That may be the only way to do it, other than hunters.

Cameron Hanes (3:44)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:45)

And they're going to start eating people.