#1089 - John Dudley

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Five, four, three, two, one.

John Dudley (0:06)

Thunk, thunk.

Joe Rogan (0:07)

There's that sound that everybody knows. Thunk. Like if you play that sound, people know that's an arrow, right?

John Dudley (0:13)

Thunk.

Joe Rogan (0:14)

But it may be a throwing knife.

John Dudley (0:17)

Thunk.

Joe Rogan (0:19)

But you know it's an arrow.

John Dudley (0:20)

Dang right, we do.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

Dang right. That's an Iowa boy right there. That's a Midwest coming out of you. Sometimes I hear you on your podcast, I'm like, man, he is so Midwest, it's hilarious.

John Dudley (0:30)

Sorry about that.

Joe Rogan (0:31)

Don't apologize. It's awesome.

John Dudley (0:32)

I'm actually more of a half breed.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

I'm a little bit of South, right?

John Dudley (0:37)

Yeah. I was a redneck for a while, and then became a Yankee.

My people up North, they don't give a shit what people think North or South. But the people from the South, my family, they're like, you're part Yankee now.

Joe Rogan (0:53)

Yeah. Isn't that weird?

John Dudley (0:54)

It's so weird.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

They lost. That's why. They lost that Civil War thing. Can you imagine?

I mean, we are several generations removed, but imagine growing up in the late 1800s when it just happened, and you're dealing with Yankees, there must have been a lot of murders, right? People killed Northerners, and Northerners killed Southerners, and must have been a lot of that.

John Dudley (1:15)

It was ruthless, I'm sure.

Joe Rogan (1:18)

How the fuck did that happen? That is a crazy time. If you think about the history of this country, that just 200 years ago, we were in, you know, less. We were in the middle of a bitter war from the North versus the South. Americans fighting Americans to the death. Big fields full of dead people.

My dad was at one of the fields. I forget which field it was.

But he said, you know, it's one of those memorial places in the South. And he said the field-

John Dudley (1:51)

Gettysburg or something?

Joe Rogan (1:51)

Yeah, you know what? It was Gettysburg.

And he said, you feel it. He's like, you feel sadness there.

John Dudley (1:57)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:57)

It's like, I know it sounds crazy. And he was saying, I don't even believe in that stuff, but you feel it. Like you're there, you're like, oh.

John Dudley (2:05)

Yeah, we've been in a few memorials, a few memorials and a few big, you know, like especially like military cemeteries. You just, you know, another one, I felt it like exactly what you're saying.

I went to a historic part of Custer where they lost the battle.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

Oh wow.

John Dudley (2:27)

And I walked the whole hill and everything. You can feel it there.

Joe Rogan (2:31)

Wow, what is that? Do you think there's like memory in places?

John Dudley (2:34)

Hell yeah, there is.

Joe Rogan (2:36)

Yeah, it probably is, right?

John Dudley (2:37)

I think there is.

Joe Rogan (2:38)

I mean, it's probably an instinctive reason why people don't want to live in a house where someone was murdered.

John Dudley (2:43)

Yeah, I don't want to live there.

Joe Rogan (2:44)

I don't want to live there? Like there's a house that John Benet Ramsey was killed in in Colorado. They can't sell that fucking house.

Dude, I lived there nine years ago, eight years ago, somewhere like that, nine years ago, and they were selling it then. They still can't sell it. It's a beautiful house. It's in a really nice neighborhood. Can't sell it. They haven't changed the name of the street. They changed the name of the street. Still can't sell it. I'm not kidding.

They just can't sell it.

John Dudley (3:14)

Does it have like historical?

Joe Rogan (3:16)

Everybody's terrified.

John Dudley (3:16)

Go sightings and stuff? Or is it just the killing?

Joe Rogan (3:19)

It's just the killing and the whole, the darkness all behind it. I mean, that was one, it wasn't just a little girl died, but there's all this darkness. She was sexually active. There was something going, like someone was probably molesting her. Someone in the family or someone else, who knows? They think someone in the family might have killed her. They don't know who it was.

It's never been solved. No one's ever been tried.

It's dark.

John Dudley (3:42)

Yeah, I'm not moving there.

Joe Rogan (3:43)

Fuck that. They can keep that house. I think they should level that thing to the ground and maybe even do something with the ground underneath it. Scoop all that shit out. Put some new dirt in. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.