#1075 - Duncan Trussell

Joe Rogan (0:06)

Before we even start the podcast, rest in peace, John Anthony West.

He died yesterday.

One of the coolest guys ever. One of my favorite people that ive ever got on the podcast, the first and only full guest that ive ever done on Skype. The only reason why I did it on Skype is because he wasn't feeling well, and he couldn't fly to California. So I said, this guy is so important. I generally like to have conversations with people when they're in the room. I think they go more friendly and they're smoother that way. He can work through any bumps easier that way. You feel better. It feels like it's real. I mean, but he was so important to me. I would have fucking taken a raven note. You know, I mean, he just, if you've never seen the DVD series Magical Egypt, it's truly an amazing piece of work.

It's, I think, six DVDs all about the history of Egypt and the immense complexity of the structures that are built there. The appreciation this guy had for what the Egyptians did was just off the charts. He was just so deeply engaged with it. It was such a giant part of his life.

And the passion and the curiosity that he had and the knowledge that he had in these DVDs, would come through and you would just be like holding your face watching him going, oh my god, these are amazing. Just what a crazy time in human history. This weird blip in the middle of North Africa. Where these people just went way past everybody else, just way past. And they did it for a long time, man. They did it in this one spot for who knows how long. It was thousands and thousands of years. And Graham Hancock and John Anthony West are the people that are really at the front of the line in terms of the public eye of pushing the timeline back. And there's real evidence for it.

Duncan Trussell (2:09)

Yeah, sure. I mean, Hancock's getting super vindicated right now.

Joe Rogan (2:12)

Yes, he is. And John Anthony West got vindicated as well by Robert Schock, who's a geologist from Boston University.

He went to Egypt and he studied the enclosure that the Sphinx was in. And he's the guy that determined that you were looking at fissures that were created by thousands of years of rainfall, which would push back, because what we know about what the climate was like in that area, apparently it pushes it back to somewhere around 9,000 years ago, which is crazy. Because, look, however old it was, it's real. The pyramids are a real thing. I mean, everybody gets real weird about pushing the date back, like when it happened, there's no way it happened 30,000 years ago. It definitely happened 2,500 BC.

Maybe, maybe, but even if it did, let's just say it all was, it just came out of nowhere somewhere around that era.

Jamie (3:01)

What a crazy spot, man.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

I mean, forget about the confusion and the conflict around the timeline, just what it is.

Jamie (3:11)

Those people were on another level.

Duncan Trussell (3:14)

What is the main reason people get so pissed off at Hancock and West for trying to push the timeline back?

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Because they've been teaching one timeline for a long time.

They don't want to admit that they were wrong. If somebody publishes a book about the timeline and it just definitively says, we know now that Egypt was a hunter-gatherer culture that somewhere around 3,000 BC erupted into this incredible civilization.

They've just been teaching that for so long. They've been teaching not that version of it, but their version is more accurate than what I just said. I'm just making up numbers. But the point is what they've been teaching is probably not right. If they wrote books about it, they've taught classes about it, all these people.

Duncan Trussell (4:01)

It's ego? It's just the ego of scientists?

Joe Rogan (4:04)

There is 100 percent some ego involved because there was a conversation that John Anthony West and Dr. Robert Schock had with an Egyptologist. And the Egyptologist, this is on a television show that was actually on TV. It was on like NBC. It was called The Mystery of the Sphinx. It was actually narrated by Charlton Heston.

And it was all about John Anthony West's work and about Graham Hancock's work and Robert Schock's work. And when they brought this geological evidence to these Egyptologists, they were openly mocking it, like laughing in this weird way. What evidence is there for this civilization back then? Like, how much evidence do you think would be there? Like, you have to realize how long ago he's talking about. He's talking about maybe 10,500 BC, maybe earlier. They think it might have all started somewhere around 30,000 years ago, which is just fucking bananas. Oh, there it is. Mystery of the Sphinx, powerful.