#1069 - Ben Greenfield

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Pacoats are supposed to be amazing. They hang out with you.

Ben Greenfield (0:02)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Five, four, three, two.

Ben Greenfield, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Joe. So it's been a lot of fun hanging out with you for the last 44 minutes.

Ben Greenfield (0:14)

That's a sick game.

Joe Rogan (0:15)

Yeah. It's pretty fun, right?

Ben Greenfield (0:17)

I need to build a really, really big, like 67-yard long living room to put my big screen in now.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

Yeah, that thing is crazy. We're talking about this game called Techno Hunt that we were just playing.

So dude, you are an interesting fucking guy. You do a lot of weird shit.

Ben Greenfield (0:31)

No, thank you, I think.

Joe Rogan (0:33)

Yeah. No, it's good. Yes.

It's a compliment.

Ben Greenfield (0:36)

I'll take it.

Joe Rogan (0:37)

Yeah. Interesting is a good thing.

But your background, you were just telling me, this is very fascinating. Like, you live way the fuck out in the middle of nowhere.

Ben Greenfield (0:49)

Well, it's kind of, I mean, it's Spokane. Spokane, I mean, we have like a theater.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

But you're off the grid.

Ben Greenfield (0:53)

And we have restaurants. There are actual people there.

Joe Rogan (0:56)

Two restaurants.

Ben Greenfield (0:57)

Yeah. There's a theater. There's a little five and dime store and a general store.

Joe Rogan (1:01)

Spokane's a normal place.

Ben Greenfield (1:02)

It's pretty normal.

Joe Rogan (1:03)

You're totally off the grid.

Ben Greenfield (1:04)

Well, up at our house, we are. You know, we're solar panels and well.

And the way I have it set up is we eased in power from the local municipal power. But if that goes out, then it hits the solar inverters and we're full solar.

So then there's like a battery panel in the garage that stores the solar because we're on like a north facing slope. So you get sun from 10 to 2

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Right.

Ben Greenfield (1:25)

So we can't collect a lot of solar, but you store it in the battery. So it's there.

Joe Rogan (1:29)

So you've got to be very judicious with your laptop use if you want to go off the grid.

Ben Greenfield (1:35)

It's a stupid home. So there's no Wi-Fi. There's no Bluetooth.

So everything's like it's hardwired metal shielded Ethernet cable that's through the whole house because I don't like to have like Wi-Fi signals bouncing around.

Joe Rogan (1:46)

Really?

Ben Greenfield (1:46)

I don't feel good.

Joe Rogan (1:48)

I've always wondered about that. What is that doing to us?

Ben Greenfield (1:52)

Well, apparently, I actually just read there's a really good new book that came out. It's called like the non tinfoil hat guide to EMF, I think is the full title of the book. But it goes into this idea of what are called voltage gated calcium channels on your cell membrane and how those actually get affected by Wi-Fi. And apparently you see like a change in the electrochemical balance across the actual membrane in response to things like Wi-Fi.

Apparently Bluetooth affects red blood cells.

And I haven't seen a lot of like actual in vivo research on that. But I know that I feel better when I don't have like the Wi-Fi router going or I turn off all my everything at night. There's kill switches in all the bedrooms. So it's you walk into the house and it's just super clean. Everything's HEPA air filters, negative ion generators, no Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth. We structure all the water that comes in from the well. So it's the same. It's got like that. Have you heard of structured water before?

Joe Rogan (2:50)

Yeah, I've just heard about it because Eddie Bravo just got that installed in his gym.

Ben Greenfield (2:54)

It's kind of cool. I mean, the idea behind it, there's this catapult at University of Washington named Dr. Gerald Pollock.

And he has done this research that shows like in plants or vessels, like blood vessels, for example, there's an exclusion zone of water. I mean, there's like a positive charge on the inside and a negative charge on the outside.

That might be backwards. It might be positive on the outside, negative on the inside. But either either way, it causes fluid to move through vessels in a way that allows it to move more easily, like like the water is actually charged. So apparently when you drink structured water, it hydrates the cell a little better.

Joe Rogan (3:31)

Huh?

Ben Greenfield (3:31)

Yeah. Sounds like that's apparently how how water moves through plants.

Joe Rogan (3:35)